one is a 12" 8ohm model and the other is a 4ohm 10". they both have 12 spoke baskets and 2 1/2" v/c's. they both work, the cone on the 12 isn't perfect, bought it that way, 10" has spokes grinded down a bit for fitment. will drop right into a 10" bazooka tube with NO problem. sound good too. they both function 100%, i paid $80 for the 12 and $70 for the 10". so hit me up. wanna get rid of them. (got FI's coming.)
