MTV Hates Bush

[Shugarra 10+ year member]

I like that ol Bush guy, I don't want some rich guy that doesn't know what work is to run our country.

What?! If you're being sarcastic please disregard, if not you know that the Bush family is extremely wealthy, right?

I think having 3 parties would be a great boon to this country. Realistically, however, Nader (who's views most accurately represent mine) isn't going to win this one, so rather than leave George in office I will vote for Kerry. By voting for Kerry I realize that I'm only perpetuating the 2 party system, that I disagree with, but all things equal I would rather have someone in office that represents most of my views rather than someone that is diametrically opposed to them.

I am very liberal. I honestly think this country would be better served in a socialistic or even communistic ideal set. A lot of my friends are conservative and I absolutely respect that. The problem I have with conservatives, in general, is their unwillingness to question the Government. The government is there to serve us and should be absolutely ready to answer for decisions that are opposed to popular public opinion. You ever watched the British parliament on t.v.? They openly criticize each other and actively question authority figures about the decisions they make without fear of being called 'unpatriotic' or told if they don't like it they can get out.

Most news sources are biased in one direction or the other. They have to appeal to their audience and in doing so will inadvertantly lean a little off center. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, Fox News is an extremely conservative channel. MTV most likely appears liberal because a lot of the rock musicians/actors that appear on that channel are decidedly liberal. It sucks but you just have to learn to listen to both sides, sift through the rhetoric and decide for yourse By voting for Kerry I realize that I'm only perpetuating the 2 party system, that I disagree with, but all things equal I would rather have someone in office that represents most of my views rather than someone that is diametrically opposed to them.

I am very liberal. I honestly think this country would be better served in a socialistic or even communistic ideal set. A lot of my friends are conservative and I absolutely respect that. The problem I have with conservatives, in general, is their unwillingness to question the Government. The government is there to serve us and should be absolutely ready to answer for decisions that are opposed to popular public opinion. You ever watched the British parliament on t.v.? They openly criticize each other and actively question authority figures about the decisions they make without fear of being called 'unpatriotic' or told if they don't like it they can get out.

Most news sources are biased in one direction or the other. They have to appeal to their audience and in doing so will inadvertantly lean a little off center. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, Fox News is an extremely conservative channel. MTV most likely appears liberal because a lot of the rock musicians/actors that appear on that channel are decidedly liberal. It sucks but you just have to learn to listen to both sides, sift through the rhetoric and decide for yourself.

And for those that are interested, I just did a search and it looks like Viacom President Mel Karmazin has donated several times to Democratic interests but only twice to Kerry, once in 2000 and once in 1996, so it was most likely for a Senatorial campaign. Fox Entertainment Group Chairman Rupert Murdoch, however, donated $25000 to the Republican National Committee on April 21, 2004.

Source: http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?first=Mel&last=Karmazin&st=

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

I thought this was kinda funny - stole it from another forum

John Kerry's Resume

NAME: John Kerry

RESIDENCE: 7 mansions, including Washington DC, worth multi-millions.

EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE: Law Enforcement. I voted to cut every law enforcement, CIA and defense bill in my career as a US Senator. I ordered Boston to remove a fire hydrant in front of my mansion, thereby endangering my neighbors in the event of fire.

MILITARY: I used three minor injuries to get an early discharge from the military and service in Vietnam (as documented by the attending doctor). I then returned to the US, joined Jane Fonda in protesting the war, and insulted returning Vietnam vets, claiming they committed atrocities and were baby killers. I threw my medals, ribbons, or something away in protest. Or did I? My book; Vietnam Veterans Against the War: The New Soldier shows how I truly feel about the military.

COLLEGE: I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. Unlike my counterpart George Bush, I have no higher education and did not get admitted to Harvard nor graduate with an M.BA

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE: I ran for U.S. Congress and have been there ever since. I have no real world experience except marrying rich women and running HJ Heinz vicariously through my wife Teresa.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS: As a US Senator I set the record for the most liberal voting record, exceeding even Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton. I have consistently failed to support our military and CIA by voting against budgets, thus gutting our country's ability to defend itself. Although I voted for the Iraq War, now I am against it and refuse to admit that I voted for it. I voted for every liberal piece of legislation. I have no plan to help this country but I intend to raise taxes significantly if I am elected. My wealth so far exceeds that of my counterpart, George Bush, that he will never catch up. I make no or little charitable contributions and have never agreed to pay any voluntary excess taxes in MA, despite family wealth in excess of $ 700 million. (we) own 28 manufacturing plants (Heinz) outside of the U.S. in

places like Asia, Mexico and Europe. We can make more profit from the cheaper co truly feel about the military.

COLLEGE: I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. Unlike my counterpart George Bush, I have no higher education and did not get admitted to Harvard nor graduate with an M.BA

PAST WORK EXPERIENCE: I ran for U.S. Congress and have been there ever since. I have no real world experience except marrying rich women and running HJ Heinz vicariously through my wife Teresa.

ACCOMPLISHMENTS: As a US Senator I set the record for the most liberal voting record, exceeding even Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton. I have consistently failed to support our military and CIA by voting against budgets, thus gutting our country's ability to defend itself. Although I voted for the Iraq War, now I am against it and refuse to admit that I voted for it. I voted for every liberal piece of legislation. I have no plan to help this country but I intend to raise taxes significantly if I am elected. My wealth so far exceeds that of my counterpart, George Bush, that he will never catch up. I make no or little charitable contributions and have never agreed to pay any voluntary excess taxes in MA, despite family wealth in excess of $ 700 million. (we) own 28 manufacturing plants (Heinz) outside of the U.S. in

places like Asia, Mexico and Europe. We can make more profit from the cheaper cost of labor in those Countries, although I Blame George Bush for sending all of the jobs out of Country.

Although I claim to be in favor of alternative energy sources, Ted Kennedy and I oppose windmills off Nantucketand Martha's Vineyard as it might spoil our view of the ocean as we cruise on our yachts.

RECORDS AND REFERENCES: None.

PERSONAL: I ride a Serotta Bike. My Gulfstream V Jet I call The Flying Squirrel. I call my $850,000 42-foot Hinckleytwin diesel yacht the "Scarmouche". I am fascinated by rap and hip-hop and feel it reflects our real culture. I own several "Large" SUVs including one parked at my Nantucket summer mansion, though I am against large polluting inefficient vehicles and blame George Bush for the energy problems.

PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

George W. Bush's Resume

George W. Bush: i do whatever Dick Cheney says to to and my dad placed a supreme court that got me to the position i am in now. i was a cheerleader in colege, awol in the coast guard during vietnam. i learned of the world being under attack on sept 11 while at an elementary school and did nothing for 12 minutes, one a plane actually hit the pentagon. my daddy has been partners with the bin laden family in the oil buisisness ever since i was a kid......... and so on, and so on, and son....

p.s. you dont even have to vote if dont want to cause as easily as i arranged the election of 2000, this year i made it even easier... hahaha, computers, i can use one but we got really good people who can!

signed,

George Dubya Bushie

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

Shugarra, I don't want to quote your whole thread because it is quite long. I know the race is tight right now between Bush and Kerry and I know that there is no way a third party will win, but I feel that both the democrats and republicans are now sending us down a path that I disagree with. That's why I'm voting third party. If either of these parties win I will be frustrated and that's why I'm going to find a 3rd party candidate that I agree with. I feel if enough people vote third party it will send a message to the democrats and republicans.

As for the statement you replied to, both Bush and Kerry are somewhat the same in how they got their wealth. Kerry married into it while Bush was born into it. So neither did it on their own.

 

[wags 10+ year member]

I find it interesting that the young extremists are now the conservatists and not the liberals anymore.

 

[Jim Boom 10+ year member]

What?! If you're being sarcastic please disregard, if not you know that the Bush family is extremely wealthy, right?

I said rich and doesn't know what work is, not just rich, just my opinion but I doubt that Karry gives a shit bout me and other farmers or people that work hard for little pay.

 

[BIG_SUPERMAN72 10+ year member]

This forum is pro republican. no wonder there is soo many up tight ****wads here. btw: Cant wait til kerry gets in office. So we can stop giving other countrys our money for worthless shit they will destruct again and again. Its piontless.

ur a farmer so u pay for diesel in ur farm equipment. Why is diesel more expsensive George ****off Bush. All of his buddies are Oil corporations.

 

[saywhat? 5,000+ posts]

ur a farmer so u pay for diesel in ur farm equipment. Why is diesel more expsensive George ****off Bush. All of his buddies are Oil corporations.

where i live diesel is cheaper than all other gas forms.........unless water is now gas form.

 

[BIG_SUPERMAN72 10+ year member]

its true but still exspensive... too much money. Gas still floating aorund 2/gallon here. I stopped looking for the lowest price i just get gas when i need it.

 

[OJ Simpson 32 10+ year member]

I don't know about this MTV crap, I actually hate MTV. Have for years.

I was sittin in Denny's this morning listening to two Vietnam Vets arguing & I thought only Bush lovers were pissy, these guys were sounding so angry talking about Bush to younger guys.

 

[MonkeyBizIU1859 10+ year member]

Yes, MTV is definitely pro-Democrat. It's pretty obvious, since most of the young people that vote usually vote Democrat. It makes sense for a youth-oriented TV channel to be gearing it's political message toward the largest group, no?

Regardless, I'm voting for Kerry. I agree with his policies, and he's not a moron.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

I find it interesting that the young extremists are now the conservatists and not the liberals anymore.

I'd say that's a false claim. Look at the college campuses where the young people are.

 

[denim 5,000+ posts]

MTV has always been and will always be Democrat, and will be sending subliminal messages to the youth of america, with their Rock the Vote, but notice all the topcs they talk about in Rock the VOte everything is Liberal as a MOFO, no respect for them in that respect at all

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

This forum is pro republican. no wonder there is soo many up tight ****wads here. btw: Cant wait til kerry gets in office. So we can stop giving other countrys our money for worthless shit they will destruct again and again. Its piontless.ur a farmer so u pay for diesel in ur farm equipment. Why is diesel more expsensive George ****off Bush. All of his buddies are Oil corporations.

Just heard the other day that Russia has threatened to cut back oil production which will drive oild prices to an all time high. I'd say OPEC is the real enemy. They're cutting supply because they know the US is economically in a tough time so they're cutting supply to try and destroy any economic growth. Now something I find interesting is I believe it was Feinstein that said we should use some of our own oil reserves to drop gas prices. Usually it's the republicans that are saying this and the democrats that are saying don't use our oil reserves.

Whether Bush or Kerry gets in office money will be given to foreign countries, because we are a generous nation.

The gas price is one of the reasons why I'm voting third party.

 

[Radar 10+ year member]

I'm anti-MTV....... because they play shitty music //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif