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<blockquote data-quote="theCybe" data-source="post: 1140093" data-attributes="member: 558105">Sure, maybe if you pay &#039;em a few thousand bucks for an install.I&#039;ll bet if you disassemble that thing it&#039;s junk;&nbsp; Like the guy with the w7 box somewhere around this forum;&nbsp; Took it apart and found all the screwups.---I&#039;m talking about the every day install;&nbsp; For every one install like the Pioneer wall above, there are hundreds of &quot;just installs.&quot;Just installing an amp, or headunit, or speakers, or alarm, or remote start.That&#039;s what I&#039;m referring to.&nbsp; Those items that should be elementary in comparison to that custom install.And maybe that&#039;s even more to my point.&nbsp; If they&#039;re capable of doing a nice job, then it goes to show that the job wasn&#039;t shitty because they&#039;re incapable, but because they don&#039;t care.I didn&#039;t spend thousands of dollars, and I didn&#039;t purchase 12 woofers at retail price;But I did pay their labor rate;&nbsp; $50/hour.For an amp install, headunit install, front speaker install, and rear speaker install.I bought the speakers there, I bought a few enclosures, I bought some cable, distroblocks in the past, etc.Doesn&#039;t that entitle me to decent labor when I pay for it?No.&nbsp; They damaged the car, damaged the faceplate, damaged the speakers, damaged everything they touched.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="theCybe, post: 1140093, member: 558105"] Sure, maybe if you pay 'em a few thousand bucks for an install. I'll bet if you disassemble that thing it's junk; Like the guy with the w7 box somewhere around this forum; Took it apart and found all the screwups. --- I'm talking about the every day install; For every one install like the Pioneer wall above, there are hundreds of "just installs." Just installing an amp, or headunit, or speakers, or alarm, or remote start. That's what I'm referring to. Those items that should be elementary in comparison to that custom install. And maybe that's even more to my point. If they're capable of doing a nice job, then it goes to show that the job wasn't shitty because they're incapable, but because they don't care. I didn't spend thousands of dollars, and I didn't purchase 12 woofers at retail price; But I did pay their labor rate; $50/hour. For an amp install, headunit install, front speaker install, and rear speaker install. I bought the speakers there, I bought a few enclosures, I bought some cable, distroblocks in the past, etc. Doesn't that entitle me to decent labor when I pay for it? No. They damaged the car, damaged the faceplate, damaged the speakers, damaged everything they touched. [/QUOTE]

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