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<blockquote data-quote="Thnking" data-source="post: 2636116" data-attributes="member: 571105">If anything, inside a car and reflection/vibration makes localization harder.Haptic cues, the whole &quot;physical&quot; cue not just tactile, aren&#039;t necessarily going to be localized more or less easily with alternating placements of midbass.&nbsp; Haptic cues are primarily learned cues.&nbsp; For example, if you&#039;re a drummer and you feel the kick drum vibrations at certain areas, and you don&#039;t feelt the same kickdrum when the music is reproduced, you may sense an irregular localization.&nbsp; So someone can&#039;t say they would localize a kickdrum more or less easily with midbass upfront just due to haptic cues.&nbsp; They possibly could say the feeling is more familiar if they are used to in a certain position.Frequencies under 300hz aren&#039;t easily localized by people, and frequencies under 200hz are definitely not localized.&nbsp; They do contain cues, but we don&#039;t process them efficiently through the HRTF.&nbsp; Just like an instrument, parts of the frequencies reproduced by a single instrument can provide various localization cues, depending on the bandwidth it reproduces.&nbsp; The same goes for the human voice.&nbsp; Under 300hz to 250hz. We probably can’t localize it very well, and in a car we probably have even a harder time.The bottom line is midbass needs to be aimed and mounted for a horizontal localization.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thnking, post: 2636116, member: 571105"] If anything, inside a car and reflection/vibration makes localization harder. Haptic cues, the whole "physical" cue not just tactile, aren't necessarily going to be localized more or less easily with alternating placements of midbass. Haptic cues are primarily learned cues. For example, if you're a drummer and you feel the kick drum vibrations at certain areas, and you don't feelt the same kickdrum when the music is reproduced, you may sense an irregular localization. So someone can't say they would localize a kickdrum more or less easily with midbass upfront just due to haptic cues. They possibly could say the feeling is more familiar if they are used to in a certain position. Frequencies under 300hz aren't easily localized by people, and frequencies under 200hz are definitely not localized. They do contain cues, but we don't process them efficiently through the HRTF. Just like an instrument, parts of the frequencies reproduced by a single instrument can provide various localization cues, depending on the bandwidth it reproduces. The same goes for the human voice. Under 300hz to 250hz. We probably can’t localize it very well, and in a car we probably have even a harder time. The bottom line is midbass needs to be aimed and mounted for a horizontal localization. [/QUOTE]

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