Medical marijuana

[Jerhemy 10+ year member]

Just to spread awareness. A number of states were writing up mm laws or were trying to pass it. Some of those states voted no, and the only reason is people were ignorant to the fact it has many uses. Like all drugs, it affects people differently and some people will have side effects they don't like. But it has many beneficial medical uses, not to mention the hemp could be used for a lot of things also.

It's great to spread awareness on MJ in general. Many adults and older citizens are too closed-minded to look at the facts and make their own decisions about weather MJ is ok. They have been told by the fed that pot is a drug, and that's it. Alcohol and ciggs are extremely damaging to the human body and kills thousands of people a year, but because it's legalized it's ok. And yes, hemp has the ability to be a saving grace to this country. The industrial use of hemp has been fought against by the lumber industry for decades because of the potential hemp has.

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

eventually all the old fuck lawmakers will die out and it will be in more states.

I don't smoke it (or anything else) but I have before. It just doesn't do it for me, I don't like the taste of it thru a bong. Roommate in college was a moderate level dealer (I'd see pounds of it on my kitchen table daily) so I always got it for free. He made brownies once and i've never been that fucked up in my life. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/groovy.gif.596278eb1b51d07d0b607951ae19b157.gif

 

[2Dcore 10+ year member]

Didn't read the story but i smoke and always will hope it gets legal for recreational use,LOl! What gives anybody the right to tell me what i can and can't put in my body. what's next? Tell me i'm not aloud to eat my Coco puffs?

 

[thevic24 5,000+ posts]

Didn't read the story but i smoke and always will hope it gets legal for recreational use,LOl! What gives anybody the right to tell me what i can and can't put in my body. what's next? Tell me i'm not aloud to eat my Coco puffs?

Nope....

only rice crispy treats...

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

It just doesn't combust. THC is comprised of several different structures of cannabinoids. There are two main kinds with tons of off shoots. CBD and CBN. Most variety of strains these days are usually a hybrid of both Indica and Sativa, with some more favoring one or the other.
The temperature of a solid vaporizer is supposed to trigger only the release of the cannabinoids without the plant matter combusting (which still releases the cannabinoids but also a lot of other things that you dont want/need)

In the end, the high is a lot cleaner feeling. You also avoid inhaling about 3/4 of what you would normally inhale if you were to smoke it regularly.

This is actually off. You meant to say that MJ contains many compounds, one of which is THC, along with the other main ones CBD(Cannabidiol), and CBN(Cannabinol). There are 75+ different cannabinoids that have been isolated, probably more -- I haven't looked at any info for a while. These cannabinoids all have different psychological and physiological effects, ranging from a psychedelic(THC), to antitumor, anticonvulsive, antianxiety, etc. There have been studies done all around the world(mostly in Europe and South America) that show what some of these compounds actually do. And some of the compounds have multiple effects. One cannabinoid may interact with only the CB1 receptor while another may interact with both CB1 and CB2. Even within the same receptors, different compounds will create different effects. Not every cannabinoid that interacts with CB1 will do the same thing(obviously).

You have to wonder why we have receptors named after cannabinoids, I'm sure. The reason for this is that your body already creates and uses cannabinoids daily for various things. It's called the endocannabinoid system, and it affects things ranging from appetite, to mood, even to your digestive system as a whole. There have been many different compounds found in the body within this system, and that is why it's so important for us to research cannabinoids as a whole. Those endocannabinoids with similar chemical structures to ones found in cannabis have similar effects. The implications are pretty obvious, meaning that we would be able to breed various strains that can help balance digestion, or uplift our mood, etc., all while doing it naturally, freely, and most importantly, without relying on narcotics or pharmaceutical companies.

Anyway, I kind of went off track. I was trying to say that vaporizing is such an amazing method of use for medicinal purposes is that you can control the temperature. When you smoke, you're combusting the plant matter, releasing all cannabinoids, along with the molecular clusterfuck that is a myriad of carcinogens and other harmful compounds, not to mention the 500+ degrees of smoke that you're inhaling. Your lungs take a beating on many levels, and so do your mouth, tongue, esophagus, etc.

Vaporizing, on the other hand, is completely different. There is virtually no degradation of any cannabinoids from combustion(you hurt the THC by smoking it), and because cannabinoids are just molecular compounds, they have verifiable vaporization points, ranging from 200-400 degrees. You can look up these temperatures, and vaporize only what compounds help you and your specific ailment. Also, most (good) dispensaries now have created their own ailment-specific strains. They send samples to labs and get reports of the amounts of the various compounds that are found. So, you'll be able to find a strain with >50% CBD, and

If the federal government starts to realize(due to CO and WA's recent legalization initiatives), that users are not going away, and that in fact they're growing in numbers, along with the irrefutable evidence now readily available that these compounds help, things will start to change on a national level. Of course, with the way the drug war has been for the past several decades, there will instead be an increase of illegal(in the state's view) raids, a higher presence of DEA on your local streets, and a lack of federal funding as a proverbial "Fuck you." to these states. Things will likely get much worse before they get better, unless people throw away their preconceived notions and stubbornness, which I frankly don't see happening. They(federal government and prison system, etc.) have so much skin in the game, however, that even if people realize that cannabis use is a nonissue, they will keep up the oppression to fill their pockets.

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

tl;dr

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

Really though, legalization is a serious issue.

 

[SourDeez 10+ year member]

This is actually off. You meant to say that MJ contains many compounds, one of which is THC, along with the other main ones CBD(Cannabidiol), and CBN(Cannabinol). There are 75+ different cannabinoids that have been isolated, probably more -- I haven't looked at any info for a while. These cannabinoids all have different psychological and physiological effects, ranging from a psychedelic(THC), to antitumor, anticonvulsive, antianxiety, etc. There have been studies done all around the world(mostly in Europe and South America) that show what some of these compounds actually do. And some of the compounds have multiple effects. One cannabinoid may interact with only the CB1 receptor while another may interact with both CB1 and CB2. Even within the same receptors, different compounds will create different effects. Not every cannabinoid that interacts with CB1 will do the same thing(obviously).
You have to wonder why we have receptors named after cannabinoids, I'm sure. The reason for this is that your body already creates and uses cannabinoids daily for various things. It's called the endocannabinoid system, and it affects things ranging from appetite, to mood, even to your digestive system as a whole. There have been many different compounds found in the body within this system, and that is why it's so important for us to research cannabinoids as a whole. Those endocannabinoids with similar chemical structures to ones found in cannabis have similar effects. The implications are pretty obvious, meaning that we would be able to breed various strains that can help balance digestion, or uplift our mood, etc., all while doing it naturally, freely, and most importantly, without relying on narcotics or pharmaceutical companies.

Anyway, I kind of went off track. I was trying to say that vaporizing is such an amazing method of use for medicinal purposes is that you can control the temperature. When you smoke, you're combusting the plant matter, releasing all cannabinoids, along with the molecular clusterfuck that is a myriad of carcinogens and other harmful compounds, not to mention the 500+ degrees of smoke that you're inhaling. Your lungs take a beating on many levels, and so do your mouth, tongue, esophagus, etc.

Vaporizing, on the other hand, is completely different. There is virtually no degradation of any cannabinoids from combustion(you hurt the THC by smoking it), and because cannabinoids are just molecular compounds, they have verifiable vaporization points, ranging from 200-400 degrees. You can look up these temperatures, and vaporize only what compounds help you and your specific ailment. Also, most (good) dispensaries now have created their own ailment-specific strains. They send samples to labs and get reports of the amounts of the various compounds that are found. So, you'll be able to find a strain with >50% CBD, and

If the federal government starts to realize(due to CO and WA's recent legalization initiatives), that users are not going away, and that in fact they're growing in numbers, along with the irrefutable evidence now readily available that these compounds help, things will start to change on a national level. Of course, with the way the drug war has been for the past several decades, there will instead be an increase of illegal(in the state's view) raids, a higher presence of DEA on your local streets, and a lack of federal funding as a proverbial "Fuck you." to these states. Things will likely get much worse before they get better, unless people throw away their preconceived notions and stubbornness, which I frankly don't see happening. They(federal government and prison system, etc.) have so much skin in the game, however, that even if people realize that cannabis use is a nonissue, they will keep up the oppression to fill their pockets.

wtf? dont try to out quote me.

you are wrong

THC = comprised of various cannabinoids.

some are CBD and some are CBN.

THC is both.

******* idiot

god you are such a ******* loser and dont even know **** about vaping

 

[jdawg90 10+ year member]

wtf? dont try to out quote me.
you are wrong

THC = comprised of various cannabinoids.

some are CBD and some are CBN.

THC is both.

******* idiot

god you are such a ******* loser and dont even know **** about vaping

lol dude he's right

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

wtf? dont try to out quote me.
you are wrong

THC = comprised of various cannabinoids.

some are CBD and some are CBN.

THC is both.

******* idiot

god you are such a ******* loser and dont even know **** about vaping

We both know I out quote you all day err day.

 

[SourDeez 10+ year member]

We both know I out quote you all day err day.

At least my parents didnt send me to rehab for smoking buds

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

At least my parents didnt send me to rehab for smoking buds

Lol. My laptop actually broke, and that's why I haven't been on.

But dude, I wrote that whole ******* post trying to educate some people and I'm pretty sure it's just going to go to waste. Bullshit.

 

[Falcons 5,000+ posts]

Lol. My laptop actually broke, and that's why I haven't been on.
But dude, I wrote that whole ******* post trying to educate some people and I'm pretty sure it's just going to go to waste. Bullshit.

I read pretty much all of it because it is a serious issue for me. I'm in a position where it could help and I. Can't do it due to it being illegal. I may just do it anyway If it helps me. I'm not gonna have a bunch of non crohns/arthritis people tell me I can't use a helpful drug.

 

[09civic 5,000+ posts]

pussies ITT that smoke.

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

I read pretty much all of it because it is a serious issue for me. I'm in a position where it could help and I. Can't do it due to it being illegal. I may just do it anyway If it helps me. I'm not gonna have a bunch of non crohns/arthritis people tell me I can't use a helpful drug.

If you do go the illegal route, unless you're in a large traffic area, relatively close to a medical state, you will likely not find much that will truly help. You might want to do some research on the types that contain what you need. The best thing would be to try a few different specific cannabinoid-centric strains, which is likely going to be nearly impossible. So, prepare for a long time inconsistency in effect, unless you spend big. Even then, you can't even rely on names. Maybe there will be a trend in your area, or maybe you'll have honest dealers(hah!), but regardless, good luck. Maybe Deez has some ideas about which strains have helped his friends, and which ones haven't. That will probably give you a better understanding of what to look for.

Lastly, and most importantly, invest in a vaporizer unless you smoke cigarettes. In that case, stop smoking cigarettes, then get a vaporizer.