medical marijuana card

[tpmeredith 10+ year member]

Would you like to retract your last paragraph Tpmeredith? I can easily refute what you just said. Your claim that it is taxing on the wallet should not rationalize the need to prohibit its sale and consumption. What about medication like pain killers, otc medication, and etc. Most if not all drugs are expensive and they pose greater health risks compared to marijuana ( with physical dependencies).

I won't retract it. When did I ever say that because it's expensive it should be illegal? I simply said that it IS expensive and adds up quick. It's a fact that generally those who smoke a lot spend a lot on it. If they can afford it great, if they can't then that's another story. Do I think people on welfare or unemployment should be drug-tested? Controversially, I tend to agree that they should. If they have the nerve to ask for money from people like me (through uncle sam), then they shouldn't be spending it on weed, alcohol, or tobacco. How would you feel if you loaned your best friend $500, and he spent 20, 40, 60, 100 dollars a week or month even on weed, alcohol, or tobacco while taking a year to pay you back? I'm not saying weed smokers are lazy, as I know plenty of successful weed smokers who own businesses, however I am saying that people who don't have money shouldnt be getting money from everyone to support habbits.

When did I ever say other drugs pose less risks or were less expensive? If you want to bring up pills, most pills are 2-3 dollars a pill, a lot cheaper than weed. Does that mean they should be legal to buy over the counter? Hell no.

 

[tpmeredith 10+ year member]

Does that truly make it any more harmful? Point set: look at alcohol and tobacco/cigarette physical dependency.. they're legal. Marijuana has medicinal properties.

Again, "the risk is not similar to that of nicotine or alcohol, but it is none the less there."

He even said that it's not similar. Where did he say it's more harmful? Your defending points that aren't even being argued.

 

[xtully 10+ year member]

I'm defending marijuana from your assumptions. That dude brought that fact up in the manner to refute marijuana's reason to be legal. So what if it shows even the hint of physical dependency, there are many drugs out there that do have that properties plus do not offer medicinal purposes.

 

[tpmeredith 10+ year member]

I'm defending marijuana from your assumptions.

What assumptions might this be? Weed costs money. End of story. You cant walk through the woods and find a plant of purple haze chilling there. Even if you grow it, your spending money on equipment, seeds, electricity, etc. Unless you grow outdoors, which isn't easy to do well in a lot of areas in the USA.

 

[xtully 10+ year member]

Wow, you must not realize a depression in the US. We are pushing to reform our medical rules. Medication is so outrageous that people can't afford the most generic of pharmaceuticals. Let alone, legalizing and taxing marijuana could lower prices of weed and standardize the market. I don't see a sound argument anywhere.. wtf

prices for eighth in Ohio for good quality : 40$-60$ dollars an eighth.. California (legal) : 25-50$ for dispensary grade... Canada (legal, or very decriminalized) 20-40$ eighth..Prices would drop, growth and consumption would raise.. happy society would a merge.. a more social, organic conscience group.

 

[tpmeredith 10+ year member]

Wow, you must not realize a depression in the US. We are pushing to reform our medical rules. Medication is so outrageous that people can't afford the most generic of pharmaceuticals. Let alone, legalizing and taxing marijuana could lower prices of weed and standardize the market. I don't see a sound argument anywhere.. wtf

You're mistaking people bringing up ever-so-slightly negative things about it for being reasons that it should be illegal.

 

[xtully 10+ year member]

well even if he hadn't, oh well. There is no contest.

 

[tpmeredith 10+ year member]

Wow, you must not realize a depression in the US. We are pushing to reform our medical rules. Medication is so outrageous that people can't afford the most generic of pharmaceuticals. Let alone, legalizing and taxing marijuana could lower prices of weed and standardize the market. I don't see a sound argument anywhere.. wtf
prices for eighth in Ohio for good quality : 40$-60$ dollars an eighth.. California (legal) : 25-50$ for dispensary grade... Canada (legal, or very decriminalized) 20-40$ eighth..Prices would drop, growth and consumption would raise.. happy society would a merge.. a more social, organic conscience group.

You seem to have a vision in your head that weed being legal is going to be a massive change in society. You tend to forget once it's legal (if it does become legal), usage might go up for a short period, but after that it's likely that usage will decrease below levels it's at now.

On top of that, when I went to cali (LA) me and my friend (Who had a card and lives there) didn't see eighths for 25 bux. Usually 45-60. Granted it was great stuff, but still. I'll admit it's been I think 3 years since I went.

 

[xtully 10+ year member]

True.. But whats the problem if it ins't as glamorous as I say it is? It still should not be illegal. It will make money, there many products off of weed, like hemp products.. like seriously watch some documentaries and do research. Use logic, for christ-sake..

 

[xtully 10+ year member]

True.. But whats the problem if it ins't as glamorous as I say it is? It still should not be illegal. It will make money, there many products off of weed, like hemp products.. like seriously watch some documentaries and do research. Use logic, for christ-sake..

there's even the markets surrounding the growing of marijuana.. it wont impact our economy in just one facet.

 

[xtully 10+ year member]

I won't retract it. When did I ever say that because it's expensive it should be illegal? I simply said that it IS expensive and adds up quick. It's a fact that generally those who smoke a lot spend a lot on it. If they can afford it great, if they can't then that's another story. Do I think people on welfare or unemployment should be drug-tested? Controversially, I tend to agree that they should. If they have the nerve to ask for money from people like me (through uncle sam), then they shouldn't be spending it on weed, alcohol, or tobacco. How would you feel if you loaned your best friend $500, and he spent 20, 40, 60, 100 dollars a week or month even on weed, alcohol, or tobacco while taking a year to pay you back? I'm not saying weed smokers are lazy, as I know plenty of successful weed smokers who own businesses, however I am saying that people who don't have money shouldnt be getting money from everyone to support habbits.
When did I ever say other drugs pose less risks or were less expensive? If you want to bring up pills, most pills are 2-3 dollars a pill, a lot cheaper than weed. Does that mean they should be legal to buy over the counter? Hell no.

red herring much?

 

[xtully 10+ year member]

Even if it's legal I might smoke every now and then, but I'll probably do it as often or less than I drink (Not often, again because of time/money constraints), because jack daniels / whiskey already has my heart.
I mean, honestly I think anything (even weed) is bad in excess. Granted some things are worse than others in excess (alcohol vs weed for example). I mean, even if it's not particularly harmful to your body, it can still be harmful to your wallet. Nothing wrong with sitting down and getting high every now and then, just like there's nothing wrong with sitting down and drinking a beer. I used to be a big stoner a good while ago, but now if I sit down 1 hit I'm gone because I rarely ever smoke.

whole argument of money starts here. c'mon man

 

[tpmeredith 10+ year member]

True.. But whats the problem if it ins't as glamorous as I say it is? It still should not be illegal. It will make money, there many products off of weed, like hemp products.. like seriously watch some documentaries and do research. Use logic, for christ-sake..

I've seen plenty of documentaries. I've read plenty of books. I agree it should be legal, but to say it's the bliss of the universe would be painting a wrong picture. Is it more harmful than other things like alcohol or tobacco? No, but it still has some downsides.

I know there are plenty of products it can make.

Again, when did I say the fact that it costs money means it should be illegal? I simply stated that alike alcohol, it costs individuals money. If said individual has no money, then they shouldn't be getting high.

Stop watching dazed and confused or half baked every day, yes it's a relatively harmless plant which should be legal, but it's not the savior of our economy or society.

 

[xtully 10+ year member]

edit: my bad, i didnt read the whole thread.. haha Way over my head!