Leftovers from the Second Skin drama...

My biggest concern was identifying myself as someone with a vested interest in the advice I was giving. I was also concerned at the time about the direction DIYMA was taking, but I've given up on that hope. Promoting myself through my signature was pointless when you started threads congratulating me on most of the forums. Your subsequent actions and comments made those gestures seem odd, but I certainly got a lot of exposure in the car audio realm.

A lot of this was just the death throes of a once great forum. My situation was just the issue people grabbed on to to voice their dismay. I had nothing to do with it and made several public requests that it stop.

I think you are confusing your marketing claim about higher rubber content with established fact. I doubt anyone is going to be interested in the technical reasons why this is either irrelevant or even a negative characteristic, so I won't go into it. It is funny that you don't seem to be able to stop. There's nothing wrong with marketing claims, it just feels out of context.

I'm glad you are taking a more neutral position on the 25% coverage concept and are not repeating the allegations you have made elsewhere that I am conning people. I was embarrassed for you when your explanations of why full coverage was optimal inevitably degenerated into the kind of gibberish that an unsupportable position requires. Any CLD is a poor choice for an SPL competitor so it's really hard to see how anyone can extrapolate from: "may or may not do more good than harm in extreme applications" to something that has any value to most users. And yes, some applications may benefit from up 40% coverage or so. Getting people to understand the folly and disadvantages of 100% coverage, or worse yet, multiple layers at 100% coverage is more important than that exact number. As long as people understand that there should be a good reason to go over 25%, I'm happy. Let's be clear, since you seem to think people will think less of me for not coming up with the idea of targeted application of vibration dampers. I didn't. I'd expect people to think less of me if I had.

The 25% idea hasn't gained currency because of marketing, fierce or otherwise. It hasn't been accepted because I have perverted the credibility I built with the original SDS in a brilliant reverse marketing campaign. It has been accepted because it works and because engineers and scientists who deal with these things in applications that are much more critical and demanding than aftermarket automotive have stepped forward and said: "Thank god somebody is finally advocating the proper use of constrained layer vibration dampers".

I appreciate the positive comments, but "fierce marketing campaign" is getting mighty close to the con man allegation again. I believe we would all be better off in every product category if people selling products said: "This is my understanding of the science involved with this product and this is the way to make the best use of it at the lowest possible cost". If that's "fierce marketing", I'd like to see more of it everywhere. Slipping the "profitable" snark in is ironic in a way I don't care to go in to here. In reality, telling people the truth is the fiercest marketing there is.

That's a cute story and it may even be true. I've seen you use it other places in the last few days. I can assure you and everyone else that CLD Tiles are not an off the shelf product. They are the result of many months of development and testing. If a comparable product had been available and its proper use encouraged, I wouldn't have felt the need to enter the market. I find it interesting that you say this product existed already. You announced your intention to bring it to market the day after I launched the new venture, but it took months for you to actually have something in hand to sell. The OEM's have been using patches for decades.

I don't have anything to say about the the rest since it doesn't involve me. I wouldn't have bother responding at all if you hadn't decided that your mea culpa moment presented an irresistible opportunity to slip in some shots at me.

I told you when I launched the commercial SDS that there was plenty of room in the market for both of us. We both had good quality products and people could choose the approach that made sense to them. All of the shady operations out there were where I expected to take market share since I could compete on price selling top quality products.

If I understand what you just wrote, insecurity made you think it was all or nothing for SS. That's a shame. I don't think any of this drama needed to happen. Advertise on DIYMA but let it be. Believe in your own products enough not to panic and leave yourself open to all sorts of accusations and suspicions.

I am not one of the "two sides" people keep referring to. I'm perfectly happy doing what I am doing and have never given any thought to what my competitors are up to. This isn't just a business to me, it is a passion. I'm satisfied with helping people find the right solution to their problems - even if it means not selling them anything at all. Naturally I'm happier when I do sell them something //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif I'm happiest when I hear from them after they've completed their project to tell me that got the results they wanted. I'm still bummed about the guy who wasn't able to completely eliminate the whine from his transmission.


SPL tiles got pwned.

Unfortunately, great info presented by Rudy/SDS will be overlooked and many will still be suckered into thinking they need way more than 20-40% CLD coverage.

 
SPL tiles got pwned.
Unfortunately, great info presented by Rudy/SDS will be overlooked and many will still be suckered into thinking they need way more than 20-40% CLD coverage.
If it weren't for your rhetoric, rudy's case would shine. But the loudest is heard and well......keep yelling.

 
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