Just say "NO!" to the moonbats healthcare "reform"

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

By Warner Todd Huston Wednesday, August 5, 2009
The most shocking part of this whole healthcare debate is the lies coming from the left — the leading liar being the president himself — that the “public option” or the government plan isn’t meant to destroy insurance companies and eliminate private heatlhcare plans.

Barack Obama himself has repeatedly said over the years that he wants to see a universal healthcare plan replace all private plans, one administered through government and not employers. Since 2004 Obama has been heard saying that he wants to replace all healthcare with a government run system… until, that is, he became president.

Then, all of a sudden he has eschewed his prior rhetoric claiming that he wants a government run system and decided instead to tell the nation that “nobody is saying” that a government take over of healthcare is the goal with Obamacare.

Of course, he is saying this because he knows that his nefarious, destructive plans will not get past the voters unless he pretends that he doesn’t want to destroy our current healthcare system replaced with a single payer, government only option.

So, he lies.

I wish that there were another way to say this. But this simple fact of the matter is that Barack Obama is a straight up liar about what his plans for healthcare are.

Don’t believe me? Then watch him lie and listen to is own words on the issue…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcanadafreepress%2Ecom%2Findex%2Ephp%2Farticle%2F13393&feature=player_embedded

And now the other part of this situation that simply amazes for its audacity. The Old Media simply refuse to call this liar on his own words. We have video and sound of this president making himself a liar. Were this a Republican president, this tape would be played 24/7 on TV and radio both.

But since it is Barack Obama, The One, their Obamessiah, they refuse to air it. If more Americans saw this man lie in his own words, his healthcare machinations would be easily defeated. But the Old Media want so badly to protect Barack Obama that they are willing to cover up his bald-faced lies.

We are not only witnessing the most socialist president in American history, but we are seeing a supplication by the Old Media establishment that beggers the mind.

As Barry said in NH yesterday, "Let's stick to the facts." //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Dr. Eric Novack testified before the House Energy and Commerce’s Subcommittee on Health about the Obama administration’s proposed health care legislation. Afterward, he told CNSNews.com that the Obama administration's claim that there are 46 million uninsured people in America includes people with different health care scenarios and that combining them togehter in one number is misleading.
“If we start breaking down those numbers a bit--and again these will be round numbers--but about 9 to 10 million of those people are in the country illegally,” Novack said.

Another 15 million are what he called “chronically uninsured,” because of pre-existing health problems or other mitigating factors.

Novack, a self-described “patient advocate” who has written about health reform for the Goldwater Institute and supports legislation in Arizona to protect patients’ right to use and pay for the health care plan of their choice, said another 10 million or so “uninsured” Americans have chosen that status.

“We have young people between 18 and 30, probably about another 10 million or so, they’d rather buy applications for their iPhone than buy health insurance,” Novack said.

He said some of the approximately 46 million Americans referred to by Obama and members of the subcommittee include others who may be eligible for existing government health care programs, such as S-Chip and Medicaid, but don’t sign up.

Novack said Congress should consider the numbers he claimed will be more useful when crafting health care legislation.

“The solution that we should be seeking out is not to change the health care of the other 97 percent of Americans,” Novack said. “Let’s seek solutions the best we can to make things better, make health care more accessible, and more affordable for the (other) three percent.”

If you want "reform", focus on the very small minority that is truly in dire need of health care, not radically changing the system for the rest of us.

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[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

As Barry said in NH yesterday, "Let's stick to the facts." //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif


If you want "reform", focus on the very small minority that is truly in dire need of health care, not radically changing the system for the rest of us.

the rest of you pay too much now or your employer does.

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

wat? over

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

the rest of you pay too much now or your employer does.

No.

I pay a fair price for the medical coverage I desire.

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

No.
I pay a fair price for the medical coverage I desire.

As do I.

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

the rest of you pay too much now or your employer does.

Who are you to say?

 

[MazzaSECv.2 10+ year member]

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[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

the rest of you pay too much now or your employer does.

The excessive costs of our current medical system can be classified into three major categories:

• The first, and by far the largest excess cost, is due to the current overuse of medical resources by patients. Overuse is the rational response of consumers who do not have to pay the entire cost of the medical services they use. The causes of those excess costs are Medicaid, Medicare, and tax laws that provide incentives for individuals to have their employers purchase their medical care in the form of private health insurance.

• The second category of excess cost consists of administrative and paperwork costs that are unnecessary for the provision of health care, but that have come into existence because of the current patchwork of third-party payers and their attempts to control their increasing costs by closely monitoring the behavior of doctors and patients. Even worse is the fact that those cost-containment activities do not seem to have contained costs very well.

• The third excess cost is associated with the fear of malpractice suits. Administering medically unnecessary tests and procedures helps to insulate doctors and hospitals from the potential wrath of patients or their families when inevitable accidents occur in medical treatment or when treatments just do not work.

In some sense each of those costs has been brought about by the retreat from a market-based system of medical delivery. The first two of them could have been avoided if patients had been given incentives to make their own choices about medical care. The third cost could have been controlled if the courts had allowed patients and medical providers to use market contracts to detail liability in case of unforeseen accidents.