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<blockquote data-quote="forbidden" data-source="post: 1879663" data-attributes="member: 552189"><p>Dude, when did I decide to insult you, hmm, perhaps today is a good day? I think I should run my mouth here, give what I get perhaps? Let me know when you pass grade 6, third time lucky for you? Yes I have done car for this long, yes I have my own business and yes this can be verified with a quick PM to Jmac. You might want to take that pink scarf that you are wearing over your yap and pull it up over the rest of your face and do the rest of the forum a favour. If I were you I'd be that embarrased. A$$hat, shut your cookie trap and if you want to post something constructive, please do it without the insults.</p><p></p><p>I never ever made the comment about underpowering speakers, you can underpower a speaker all day long provided that the thermal barrier is not broken. Matter of fact, you can even underpower a speaker and give it a clipped signal all day long and the speaker will not fail <strong>unless</strong> the heat generated in the voicecoils cannot be dissipated.</p><p></p><p>Do I know how a head unit works, nope, never seen one, never sold thousands of them either. Hmm, what happens if you set your gains on the amp at the 80% like how you do, then crank up the dial to 90% on the head unit and all of a sudden you are clipping all over the map. I really like this comment "lower gain = less voltage, less voltage = less wattage, less wattage = lower volume." So what happens when the deck is taken to full output and is sending full output voltage to the amp (perhaps even a clipped output voltage)? Is the amp making less power now? Jeez, I think I will try your method and set all my customers gains like this and then tell them who I learned it from. You can be made famous as the little tool that couldn't. And what happens if the persons system has a front end that can keep up with the back end, "you dont want your amp pushing full power all the time or your subs would drown out your other speakers all the time". I guess your definition of a system is some coax speakers and some forum brand of the month subs with a brand of the month amp in a trunk of your friends car (you can't drive in grade 6). My idea is one that is matched together properly, set properly, installed properly and used properly.</p><p></p><p>Again, perhaps I should have worded it better as well. Lowering the gain on a amp does not limit the amps ability to produce power. An amp has a gain control to work with a wide range of head units and their differing output voltages. Sure you can turn the gain down and at a normal volume level it will be noticeably quieter, turn the volume up though, to full output, therby increasing the input voltage to the amp and undeniably the point of clipping will be hit. If an amp is rated to produce 100w of output power, it does not care where the gain is set at in order to produce full power when the proper amount of input voltage is reached.</p><p></p><p>Jujumantb, I think you know where I was coming from and I can see how my comments were taken out of context as well. Sometimes all it takes is going back over something and reading it again to see it as someone else does, thanks for making me aware of this dude. Kinda late at night for me as I had just gotten in from work as I have tonight.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="forbidden, post: 1879663, member: 552189"] Dude, when did I decide to insult you, hmm, perhaps today is a good day? I think I should run my mouth here, give what I get perhaps? Let me know when you pass grade 6, third time lucky for you? Yes I have done car for this long, yes I have my own business and yes this can be verified with a quick PM to Jmac. You might want to take that pink scarf that you are wearing over your yap and pull it up over the rest of your face and do the rest of the forum a favour. If I were you I'd be that embarrased. A$$hat, shut your cookie trap and if you want to post something constructive, please do it without the insults. I never ever made the comment about underpowering speakers, you can underpower a speaker all day long provided that the thermal barrier is not broken. Matter of fact, you can even underpower a speaker and give it a clipped signal all day long and the speaker will not fail [B]unless[/B] the heat generated in the voicecoils cannot be dissipated. Do I know how a head unit works, nope, never seen one, never sold thousands of them either. Hmm, what happens if you set your gains on the amp at the 80% like how you do, then crank up the dial to 90% on the head unit and all of a sudden you are clipping all over the map. I really like this comment "lower gain = less voltage, less voltage = less wattage, less wattage = lower volume." So what happens when the deck is taken to full output and is sending full output voltage to the amp (perhaps even a clipped output voltage)? Is the amp making less power now? Jeez, I think I will try your method and set all my customers gains like this and then tell them who I learned it from. You can be made famous as the little tool that couldn't. And what happens if the persons system has a front end that can keep up with the back end, "you dont want your amp pushing full power all the time or your subs would drown out your other speakers all the time". I guess your definition of a system is some coax speakers and some forum brand of the month subs with a brand of the month amp in a trunk of your friends car (you can't drive in grade 6). My idea is one that is matched together properly, set properly, installed properly and used properly. Again, perhaps I should have worded it better as well. Lowering the gain on a amp does not limit the amps ability to produce power. An amp has a gain control to work with a wide range of head units and their differing output voltages. Sure you can turn the gain down and at a normal volume level it will be noticeably quieter, turn the volume up though, to full output, therby increasing the input voltage to the amp and undeniably the point of clipping will be hit. If an amp is rated to produce 100w of output power, it does not care where the gain is set at in order to produce full power when the proper amount of input voltage is reached. Jujumantb, I think you know where I was coming from and I can see how my comments were taken out of context as well. Sometimes all it takes is going back over something and reading it again to see it as someone else does, thanks for making me aware of this dude. Kinda late at night for me as I had just gotten in from work as I have tonight. [/QUOTE]
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