Its official.

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Holic I think your going way too far into this. It shouldn't be your job to defend Goob's decisions, if you want to post a new rule just make a new thread with the rule and immediately lock it. I mean, it's fine to let the members discuss the rule but it seems like your taking way too much heat for something that's really not your doing.

I dont mind taking heat, I think Ive proven that over the years. My above comments about not being offended by the term were not to suggest I disagree with Goob, quite the opposite. And the only reason I didnt simply lock the post after creating it, was to try and give people a chance to voice their opinions. Low and behold, I/we are still viewed by some people as censoring opinions. A lot of people here want/wanted to be mods, well take a good look, this is the crap-storm you end up having to deal with.

Thanks for your opinion though bubba, I get where you are coming from.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

I understand this thought process, but the opposite problem cannot be ignored either. The opposite being people are allowed to say any hateful, disrespectful, vile thing they can think of. Lets face it, the anonymity of the internet makes saying those types of things easier, sometimes much too easy. I dont want to stifle people's ability to express themselves, but I also dont want people to feel they can say any hateful thing they want with no other intention than to incite anger. The roll of moderators, on any site, is to maintain some sort of balance here. If you (anyone, not you faulkton) dont agree with the balance struck here, I understand and respect that. But to refuse to see the other side of the argument (again, not you faulk), is simply being unreasonable. Having to make these decisions is not easy, its a matter of trying to upset the fewest people possible, while knowing some people will be upset no matter what decision is made.
Again, Im not personally offended by the term, but i still see this as a clear cut example of needing to draw the line. If you want to use the term to express friendship, then it should be easy to find a less volatile term to express your positive meaning. And if you use the term to express a less respectful meaning, then that merely reinforces the need to ask that the word not be used here. I nor any other mod here wants to keep people from expressing friendship, we just want people to find a more constructive, less destructive, way of doing so. To me, that is not unreasonable. And its certainly not us just trying to push our weight around to censor people just because we can. If anyone cant understand that, its because they just aren't trying to understand.

Dan, if you have any constructive addition to the discussion, besides simply trying to bait me into a petty e-argument, I'll be glad to respond. Otherwise, I'll simply file your comments away as petty trolling. I like you, we've gotten along well over the years. But that doesn't mean I wont speak up when I disagree with you on this topic. If that bothers you, sorry, but Im not in the position to let it go, being as I accepted this role as moderator. I hope you understand that.

woah.. quite the diatribe.

 

[thevic24 5,000+ posts]

I dont mind taking heat, I think Ive proven that over the years. My above comments about not being offended by the term were not to suggest I disagree with Goob, quite the opposite. And the only reason I didnt simply lock the post after creating it, was to try and give people a chance to voice their opinions. Low and behold, I/we are still viewed by some people as censoring opinions. A lot of people here want/wanted to be mods, well take a good look, this is the crap-storm you end up having to deal with.
Thanks for your opinion though bubba, I get where you are coming from.

This is why IMO you will be a good mod. Listening to every side but sticking to your guns.

And you stick to your guns in a professional way

Ok, end of nut hugging rant:naughty:

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

woah.. quite the diatribe.

Sorry you feel this way. Im honestly just trying to be fair to as many people as possible, as Im sure the rest of the staff here is as well. Cant please everyone though, right? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

This is why IMO you will be a good mod. Listening to every side but sticking to your guns.And you stick to your guns in a professional way

Ok, end of nut hugging rant:naughty:

Thank you.

 

[LaserRed38 10+ year member]

Why can't people just talk about audio and behave? Are we that easily distracted/unintelligent that we can't have a site dedicated to discussing audio without this crap? To be honest, I don't see the point of off-topic sections on every single enthusiast forum. You go to that site to talk about that certain subject; why is there a need to have a word-vomit section? Don't you people have friends IRL that you can BS with?

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

Why can't people just talk about audio and behave? Are we that easily distracted/unintelligent that we can't have a site dedicated to discussing audio without this crap? To be honest, I don't see the point of off-topic sections on every single enthusiast forum. You go to that site to talk about that certain subject; why is there a need to have a word-vomit section? Don't you people have friends IRL that you can BS with?

doubtful

 

[LaserRed38 10+ year member]

doubtful

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[plugitin 5,000+ posts]

My sense of humor is exactly the same. What HAS changed is Im now forced to be in the middle of situations like this, and enforce rules laid out by the site owner. If you cannot understand the difficulty this sometimes creates, that's just you being naive.
Let me spell it out for you, Dan. Im not offended by the word. But like you, Im not black nor does it portray myself personally in a negative light. I have enough respect for others' views however to realize just because *I* am not offended, doesn't make it right.

Censorship would be deleting all threads that have opinions in them that do not agree with this new rule. As you can see, that is not happening.

you were not forced, you accepted this position.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

you were not forced, you accepted this position.

That is true, but I think you misunderstood my point sort of. In accepting the position, this is my responsibility to deal with topics I would many times otherwise simply click and move on to another thread. Im not lookin for a pity party, Im simply explaining why my opinion may have seemed to change, when in reality it simply means I must voice an opinion on topics I could otherwise avoid. Dan suggested Ive changed (already), but the reality is I have not, but my need to be involved HAS changed.

 

[PioneerSPL1990 10+ year member]

i thought this was legit for a minute, and i was just getting ready to delete my acount.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

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lol, I didn't mean you, I was talking about the rest of the forum members...

 

[plugitin 5,000+ posts]

lol, I didn't mean you, I was talking about the rest of the forum members...

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[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

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except you? lol

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Sorry you feel this way. Im honestly just trying to be fair to as many people as possible, as Im sure the rest of the staff here is as well. Cant please everyone though, right? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

meh i feel let down. the whole thing was anticlimactic

 

[mossberg385t 10+ year member]

I guess when you become mod your sense of humor gets removed.

I see no difference in his humor.

I think you are just being unreasonable and not looking at the situation objectively. I really don't care either way, I think the word is a word and it only carries a racist connotation depending on the race that is saying it, which in itself is racist, but I am also respectful of other peoples opinions.