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Message: <blockquote data-quote="draarong2004" data-source="post: 2068790" data-attributes="member: 568870">you know i did notice that, there is a lack of wall charger in the newest ones, those crappy video ones, so you've won that arguement there, mine came with one though(bought mine over a year ago)  as for the case, mine did come with a leather case, and that pouch is pretty pathetic.  as for the battery packs? idk bout the newer ones, but i can go a whole day without charging mine, sometimes 2 depending on volume levels and how often i switch songs(backlight turning on and off)idk bout no 75 dollar figure either for no travel packs/cradles, 30 bux TOPS.and yes, i'm still stickin to the space deal, i'd rather pay 300 bux for a 30 gig, then 300 for a 20 gig with a couple bells and whistles in the box.</blockquote>

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