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<blockquote data-quote="joshpoints" data-source="post: 1134999" data-attributes="member: 546465"><p>I don&#039;t know.&nbsp; I find you get more for the price.&nbsp; They seem more durable.&nbsp; My bottom of the line flat cone k&#039;s sound better than my jbl gto series did and I had all kinds of problems with the jbl gto series.&nbsp; Went through three sets +.&nbsp; They get louder than my jbl&#039;s did and sound better at the same time.&nbsp; At the time I bought the gto&#039;s they were going for $80 each so it ended up being pretty much the same price as my k&#039;s but a big difference in performance.&nbsp; I&#039;ve heard bad things about the old type r&#039;s but I can&#039;t remember exactly what.&nbsp; I&#039;ve heard the infinity perfects tend to break if you feed them over 300 watts.&nbsp; If you look at the price of the infinity perfects when they first came out they were like $200+ each.&nbsp; I&#039;m guessing 2 12&quot; Ov2&#039;s would outperform them in sq and spl.&nbsp; But I can&#039;t say this for sure because I haven&#039;t heard them side by side.&nbsp; Basically what I&#039;m saying is if you take a new design of some well known store brand sub and compare it to the same thing you could buy online, you&#039;re going to save money or get an extra sub for the same price.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="joshpoints, post: 1134999, member: 546465"] I don't know. I find you get more for the price. They seem more durable. My bottom of the line flat cone k's sound better than my jbl gto series did and I had all kinds of problems with the jbl gto series. Went through three sets +. They get louder than my jbl's did and sound better at the same time. At the time I bought the gto's they were going for $80 each so it ended up being pretty much the same price as my k's but a big difference in performance. I've heard bad things about the old type r's but I can't remember exactly what. I've heard the infinity perfects tend to break if you feed them over 300 watts. If you look at the price of the infinity perfects when they first came out they were like $200+ each. I'm guessing 2 12" Ov2's would outperform them in sq and spl. But I can't say this for sure because I haven't heard them side by side. Basically what I'm saying is if you take a new design of some well known store brand sub and compare it to the same thing you could buy online, you're going to save money or get an extra sub for the same price. [/QUOTE]

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