Inake

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

indeed

 

[bbka 10+ year member]

getting headers/exahust/intake are a nice way to go still if you just wana open things up in the car more.

Haha if you say so.

Add up how much an AEM intake, DC header, and name brand cat-back exhaust would cost for your average 4 cylinder car... I just searched for prices and I was seeing at least $200, sometimes more for the intake. Searched for a DC header, looking at least $300. Exhaust I'll just guess $500. That's $1,000 (all brand new, obviously used would be cheaper) and you "opened" your car about 10-20whp if your lucky (barely enough to notice a difference), proly closer to the 10-15whp range, all of this depends on your car of course.

That's a lot of money for not much of a performance gain. A cheap cool air intake and removing the CAT would probably work just as well. Sorry just can't justify spending THAT much, but if you guys want to, go for it. Hell I pieced my turbo kit together for $1100, gained 130whp over stock (guessing I was around 100whp while stock).

Lots of people do buy into that I/H/E crap though, makes me wish I sold car parts.

 

[bbka 10+ year member]

Even if I got all that stuff used for like $500, it still wouldn't be worth the minimal performance it will give you imo. Put all that crap on a honda and you still have a slow as balls car lol...

Just spend it on a new FI BTL, Mag, etc... those are about $500 with all the options right? Or whatever other sub you want lol.

 

[kuijo 10+ year member]

I/H/E is a very good start, it allows any other mods you throw on to the car to take advantage of those things. I've got a EMS in my car and wouldn't have gained as near as much horsepower as i would have with it unless i had I/H/E

I wouldn't run a supercharger without those 3 things.

I wouldn't run a turbo without an exhaust.

They might be trivial at the beginning but they really help out in the end.

Oh and short rams **** hot air. I've even seen a few dynos were people lose power on hot days because of it.

 

[bbka 10+ year member]

You have an RSX right? That's what you got in your sig. That would be one I might actually consider getting an I/H/E and K-Pro on, only if the K20 was in a light hatch though (actually thought about doing that), in your heavy car I probably wouldn't bother. For a car like mine (ex civic coupe) it's a complete waste of money to go I/H/E.

Also what do you mean by good start? After I/H/E, unless you plan on going nitrous or S/C there ain't much else your going to do. Maybe cams? ITB's? More horsepower will proly need bigger exhaust than you got (nitrous or s/c), possibley better header if your going nitrous or s/c. ITB's you won't even use the intake you already bought.

Building an all motor setup and F/I setup would be different, sure the parts woudl work, but I'd specifically want a header and exhaust setup for F/I, not all motor.

 

[kuijo 10+ year member]

Thats what i meant, I/H/E is a great start for a n/a build. I guess the next step would be cams or something along those lines that would utilize the latter mods.

If you're going turbo like you did, i probably wouldn't have bothered with those mods to begin with either. I mean I/H would have been a waste of money just to go turbo, the exhaust is still good idea though.

 

[bbka 10+ year member]

F/I exhaust would be bigger than N/A exhaust though, even if you got bigger aftermarket N/A exhaust you will proly still want to go a little bigger when you go F/I.

Trust me, I am a cheap bastard when it comes to cars lol, spending extra money sucks, cause cars get expensive.

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

You have an RSX right? That's what you got in your sig. That would be one I might actually consider getting an I/H/E and K-Pro on, only if the K20 was in a light hatch though (actually thought about doing that), in your heavy car I probably wouldn't bother. For a car like mine (ex civic coupe) it's a complete waste of money to go I/H/E.
Also what do you mean by good start? After I/H/E, unless you plan on going nitrous or S/C there ain't much else your going to do. Maybe cams? ITB's? More horsepower will proly need bigger exhaust than you got (nitrous or s/c), possibley better header if your going nitrous or s/c. ITB's you won't even use the intake you already bought.

Building an all motor setup and F/I setup would be different, sure the parts woudl work, but I'd specifically want a header and exhaust setup for F/I, not all motor.

There are a LOT of mods that can be done to an all motor car. in fact, im using my spare motor to build an all motor 240. For instance, in addition to the I/H/E mods you have cams, pistons, forged rods, Forged Knife edged and fully coutnerweighted crankshafts (a must for any high revver), Lightweight pulleys, port and polish work, milling your head, ITB's (gotta have big cojones to concot something like that on my 240), and there are many others. Of course, theres a lot of parts i didnt mention that go along with some of the parts like titanium valve springs and retainers. I would rather have 200hp via N/A than 200hp via turbo. Lag is a *****, but to each his own.

 

[bbka 10+ year member]

I know what there is, but I'm just talking about the mods that actually add a decent amount of horsepower. All that stuff you mentioned won't add shit for power unless you do it all, even then it's not much power, and your car is still slow. I guess it depends on what you think is fast though. To make all motor cars fast, it's VERY expensive.

You say you would rather have a 200whp all motor car, rather than turbo? Using my car for an example, that would be dam near impossible and VERY VERY expensive (it hurts thinking how much that woudl cost). I'll stick with my cheap turbo kit lol. Oh and turbo lag is completely overrated (ride in a good setup and you won't think it's bad), when racing I launch around 4k with drag radials (slicks at redline) and never drop below that rpm, so lag is never an issue. Ball bearing turbos also make a world of difference, I'd love to have one on my next setup.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

So back on topic, did this guy ever get is intake? Lol...

K&N filter and cheap eBay cold air intake... FTW!

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[yacob.naif 10+ year member]

I say screw intake mods altogether and throw a couple dual-barrel webers on there.

You'll never get an injected car to sound that good, EVAR.

ITB's are a close second, and easier to do:

http://www.fonzarelli.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/vids/misc/24vitb.avi

 

[phantom240 5,000+ posts]

lol. dual weber carbs ftmfw. I had a 260z way long ago that had dual webers. Oh god that thing was quick ad soudned mean, but rust in an underbody wont do ya much good if you ever get in a wreck, so i sold it.