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<blockquote data-quote="wew lad" data-source="post: 8696970" data-attributes="member: 665412">Weird is irrelevant, this is just a discussion from two people with different points of view.Instruments are great, if you&#039;re a perfect human. One of the leading causes of accidents in VFR flight is VFR flight into IMC, that&#039;s what happened here. SVFR is a special clearance to operate under VFR in highly controlled airspace provided the pilot can meet certain requirements, such as remaining under the ceiling. This pilot did not maintain visual conditions and crashed because of it. He should not have flown in SVFR based on the local weather, and even though he did, he should have turned around immediately to regain visual conditions. The whole risk thing you were referring to is part of the reason this occurred. Elevated risk in SVFR equals a necessity to respond appropriately when you encounter IMC. He didn&#039;t. TWS wouldn&#039;t prevent this incident, in my opinion.Even if he called for pop up IFR (which he should have, regardless, it&#039;s hard to admit you made a mistake) he wasn&#039;t LOS with the radar and ATC couldn&#039;t help him. Maybe if he climbed and didn&#039;t get spatially disoriented, but that&#039;s all hypothetical.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wew lad, post: 8696970, member: 665412"] Weird is irrelevant, this is just a discussion from two people with different points of view. Instruments are great, if you're a perfect human. One of the leading causes of accidents in VFR flight is VFR flight into IMC, that's what happened here. SVFR is a special clearance to operate under VFR in highly controlled airspace provided the pilot can meet certain requirements, such as remaining under the ceiling. This pilot did not maintain visual conditions and crashed because of it. He should not have flown in SVFR based on the local weather, and even though he did, he should have turned around immediately to regain visual conditions. The whole risk thing you were referring to is part of the reason this occurred. Elevated risk in SVFR equals a necessity to respond appropriately when you encounter IMC. He didn't. TWS wouldn't prevent this incident, in my opinion. Even if he called for pop up IFR (which he should have, regardless, it's hard to admit you made a mistake) he wasn't LOS with the radar and ATC couldn't help him. Maybe if he climbed and didn't get spatially disoriented, but that's all hypothetical. [/QUOTE]

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