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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mendon mafia" data-source="post: 6499167" data-attributes="member: 584590">i sort of disagree.  about the budget thing.  I wouldnt consider ap or dd to be budget and this forum raves over both.  I would say this forum is geared to value ie finding the best performance for a given budget.  rd, fi, re, ap, dd, etc all make some of the highest performance gear available regardless of cost.  DD and ap being more towards the jl side but with more of a reason for higher pricing. Not sure how others feel but i would compare an ap axis to a w7 in terms of build quality and performance. axis 12's go for ~$300, W7 12's goes for ~$400.Basically theres better equipment than jl makes for less money.</blockquote>

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