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<blockquote data-quote="eharri3" data-source="post: 5408567" data-attributes="member: 591579">Where is the &#039;hole&#039;? Im wondering if the shallowmount has anything to do with it as I have a Pioneer PRemier shallowmount 10 and I find there is a lack of tightness and definition in the 50-100HZ region which I attribute to this sub&#039;s sloppiness. Never been able to completely get rid of it regardless of what I&#039;ve done with crossovers and gain attenuation. I&#039;ve even upgraded my sub amp and improved it somewhat but it&#039;s still there. Ive heard better things about the Clarion version of the shallowmount sub and may try that soon as it got good reviews in the now defunct caraudiomag. Id never try to&nbsp; insinuate someone who was probably playing with this stuff while I was still in diapers might not know as much as me but... play with things like speaker aim, position, tweeter attenuation, and sub amp vs. mid/high amp attenuation to get what you want and once you&#039;re at those limits look for an equalizer.Nowadays source units, amps, and speakers are so good that alot of people only do minimmal if any eq&#039;ing to get it right.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="eharri3, post: 5408567, member: 591579"] Where is the 'hole'? Im wondering if the shallowmount has anything to do with it as I have a Pioneer PRemier shallowmount 10 and I find there is a lack of tightness and definition in the 50-100HZ region which I attribute to this sub's sloppiness. Never been able to completely get rid of it regardless of what I've done with crossovers and gain attenuation. I've even upgraded my sub amp and improved it somewhat but it's still there. Ive heard better things about the Clarion version of the shallowmount sub and may try that soon as it got good reviews in the now defunct caraudiomag. Id never try to insinuate someone who was probably playing with this stuff while I was still in diapers might not know as much as me but... play with things like speaker aim, position, tweeter attenuation, and sub amp vs. mid/high amp attenuation to get what you want and once you're at those limits look for an equalizer. Nowadays source units, amps, and speakers are so good that alot of people only do minimmal if any eq'ing to get it right. [/QUOTE]

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