well, as of now I dont need them and I am going to sell of as much car audio stuff as I can and get more stuff. I am selling my Alpine four channel amp for no less than $20.00 or I'll trade for some components to replace my stock 6X8s. specs are 20 watts RMSX4 and 80 watts RMSX2 bridged. works great, old school amp. next I have a VR3 amplifier that I wont take less than $45.00 for or I'll trade for another amp. specs r 50 watts RMSX2 and 100 WRMSX1, 200 watts peak, three way crossover switch(bass, flat, treble), freqeuncy selector, bass boost(+3db). Both have overload and thermal protection circuitry. I messed up my receiver wires and since it will be 2-3 weeks before I can get it redone I figured I'd seell this stuff off and get new stuff while I'm waiting. I did not have any of this stuff hooked up when I messed up the wiring. I will sell both amps off for $80.00 or I'll trade both for an amp that pushes at least 300 watts RMS. I'll pay for shipping on my end but u must pay for shipping on ur end. thanks and let me know if u need anymore info on either amp or if I have anything else u may want that I have. I'll post pics in my next post.