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<blockquote data-quote="djdilliodon!" data-source="post: 8773787" data-attributes="member: 684299"><p>it is absolutely a rarity now a days to find a sub brand that doesn’t have any part of their line made in China. The main reason is profit. Subs that sell for 300-400 bucks can cost under $50 each with packaging and all. If one does blow one and you have to warranty it, you will still be way ahead in profit if you replace it. Burnt coils are almost always user error. Granted if a sub brand is rating their products wrong then of course that isn’t the case. Now other failures such as glue joints failing for example IMO are a manufacturer defect and this happens with Chinese made subs cause the adhesives they use ****. The Chinese made coils also aren’t very great either but if rated properly should hold up fine. I personally use precision econo wind for coils and I think anyone looking to build the best subs does as well. They will make them to spec from winding length, wire type, collar wrap, size, anything you can imagine it can be custom made right to you’re exact specs. I can say building subs in America (I do it) isn’t cheap to achieve cause no one is willing to do it for $10 bucks an hour. Years ago the battle for the budget started and many no longer wanted to believe you get what you pay for. Everyone started wanting the cheapest bang for the buck and many car audio items from subs to amps had to be made overseas in order to achieve that. I personally never minded spending my money on quality, but that’s just me. While I build subs one thing I don’t build is mids and tweeters. I refuse to get them made in China or use the pro audio crap! I went to what I feel is the best and that’s Norway and denmark.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="djdilliodon!, post: 8773787, member: 684299"] it is absolutely a rarity now a days to find a sub brand that doesn’t have any part of their line made in China. The main reason is profit. Subs that sell for 300-400 bucks can cost under $50 each with packaging and all. If one does blow one and you have to warranty it, you will still be way ahead in profit if you replace it. Burnt coils are almost always user error. Granted if a sub brand is rating their products wrong then of course that isn’t the case. Now other failures such as glue joints failing for example IMO are a manufacturer defect and this happens with Chinese made subs cause the adhesives they use ****. The Chinese made coils also aren’t very great either but if rated properly should hold up fine. I personally use precision econo wind for coils and I think anyone looking to build the best subs does as well. They will make them to spec from winding length, wire type, collar wrap, size, anything you can imagine it can be custom made right to you’re exact specs. I can say building subs in America (I do it) isn’t cheap to achieve cause no one is willing to do it for $10 bucks an hour. Years ago the battle for the budget started and many no longer wanted to believe you get what you pay for. Everyone started wanting the cheapest bang for the buck and many car audio items from subs to amps had to be made overseas in order to achieve that. I personally never minded spending my money on quality, but that’s just me. While I build subs one thing I don’t build is mids and tweeters. I refuse to get them made in China or use the pro audio crap! I went to what I feel is the best and that’s Norway and denmark. [/QUOTE]
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