Direct swap out - Orion 2500d and Visonik 4000xd

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

I wanted to try something different in my SPL setup, so I borrowed my team mates Orion 2500d to see how it compared to my Visonik 4000xd amp I run. Results were interesting, the Orion doesnt have a subsonic filter which hurts it right off the bat (the visonik has a SSF)...Lets look at the differences first though :

Visonik 4000xd

Rms Power @ 14.4V DC

1 x 2500W @ 4 Ohm

1 x 3500W @ 2 Ohm

1 x ?????W @ 1 Ohm

Rms Power @ 17V DC

1 x 3000W @ 4 Ohm

1 x 4000W @ 2 Ohm

1 x ????W @ 1 Ohm

Orion 2500d

Rms Power @ 14.4V DC

1 x 1200W @ 4 ohm

1 x 1700W @ 2 ohm

1 x 2500W @ 1 ohm

Subwoofer used :

TC Sounds 18" 4HP

**NOTE** Both amplifiers are powered by three AlphaCell's and one Interstate Lead Acid Batteries

First off let me tell you that im doing 152.7 db Legal on the Termlab in the kick curretnly with the visonik...so I am always looking to improve that score. I had the opportunity to borrow the 2500d from a fellow team mate and decided to see what happened. I was totally shocked how different the two amps sounded when directly swapped. The first thing I noticed right off the bat just playing some rap tunes was that the orion just couldnt pump out the same amount of clear, defined lows as the Visonik did. The bass sounded bland when compaired to my 4000xd, this surprised me alot because I had always thought that Orion was better equipment. Boy was I wrong!

Now dont get me wrong, the Orion still pumped out the notes, I unfortunately didnt have my Termlab setup at the time of the test, but I did have my Goldline SPL meter on and I was only pulling 150 and some change with the Orion installed. While there is a clear number difference in the rated wattages listed above, you and I know both that you really never know what an amp is going to put out until you try it - and this clearly shows that the Visonik is doing its job.

Connecting the Orion 2500d was sort of odd as well, while the Visonik has 1/0 connections on it, the Orion has odd dual 4 gauge terminals on it which made for additional wiring mess and awkward power jumpers from my fuseblock. In the tests I performed (while not real scientific) I had used 90 amps of fusing on both amps, and the Orion seemed to hold a little longer on the three 30 amp fuses I have in my block....which was sort of expected due to the orion being still electrically less output capable than the Visonik.

This was an interesting test......i'll be trying a Powerbass 3000 next in the next few days so we'll see how that works out as well, and i'll report it.

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[flakko 5,000+ posts]

well this test was kindof unfair cuz the Visonik has the ability to put out like 1k more than the orion...that is unless this test is to see the abilities of both

 

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

As much as i hate anaba the 4000's are pretty beefy amps.

Curious to see what the PB will do

P.S

You need a gasket

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

haha didnt notice that yo

 

[prochobo 10+ year member]

Lol dude, you still got your scores on your winshield //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif

 

[TwistedMovistar 10+ year member]

is it me , but the orion 2500d does have a sub sonic filter....it is the low pass filter

 

[jrouter76 10+ year member]

is it me , but the orion 2500d does have a sub sonic filter....it is the low pass filter

no it is not the low pass filter but it is the the Q-intell-optimizer that acts as a sub-sonic filter look up the manual it tells how to adjust it for which type of box is being used.

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

no it is not the low pass filter but it is the the Q-intell-optimizer that acts as a sub-sonic filter look up the manual it tells how to adjust it for which type of box is being used.

I would of loved to have looked it up in the Orion manual, if they were actually available online //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif

I never suggested this was a fair test, but come on how many times do you get to swap out an amp with someone else and see what happens? Not like im trying to write history here.

and ya, my scores are still on my windshield....havent driven the jeep much this week so havent taken to get it washed yet.

 

[jrouter76 10+ year member]

I would of loved to have looked it up in the Orion manual, if they were actually available online //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif


I never suggested this was a fair test, but come on how many times do you get to swap out an amp with someone else and see what happens? Not like im trying to write history here.

and ya, my scores are still on my windshield....havent driven the jeep much this week so havent taken to get it washed yet.

I f i remember correctly i did a google search for the 2500d and i had to download the manual through pdf format...it tells about the Q-intell being set for each type of box used

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

I f i remember correctly i did a google search for the 2500d and i had to download the manual through pdf format...it tells about the Q-intell being set for each type of box used

None found.

I played with the setting, and it really didnt seem to make a bit of difference on how it effected the sound. Im pretty dissapointed in the Orion, glad i never bought one.

 

[SBLAZER]

kinda strange. wha was the orion wired to? u should have any prob wit 90A wit the orion, u should be able to run music on that, full tilt. but i guess every install is diff. i'd still take the orion over the vison