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<blockquote data-quote="keep_hope_alive" data-source="post: 8464169" data-attributes="member: 576029">...because it&#039;s so difficult to wear the headset correctly?the problem is that the tune is optimized for one sub level only.&nbsp; for people that like to adjust the volume of their sub depending on music types or preference, different sub volumes can yield different tunes.&nbsp; the issues go away once the MS-8 is no longer controlling the sub.&nbsp; this vehicle was a tC and the owner likes adjusting the level often.because phase will change with slope, correct.&nbsp; but changing the point to what you prefer should be a user-adjustment in real-time just like other processors.&nbsp; i believe that crossovers points should be set by ear, not by computer.&nbsp; and to set by ear you need to listen and adjust AFTER time correction.like i said, i still recommend the MS-8 to people depending on their specific needs.&nbsp; the OP asked to tweak after the auto-tune which eliminates the MS-8 from the running unless you want to fumble through the EQ adjustments with the remote with no idea what the MS-8 actually did.the problem with a manual tune is that you need to pay careful attention to crossover slopes as they cause partial phase shifts (forward or backward, in 90 deg increments).&nbsp; many &quot;tuners&quot; totally neglect this and use a ruler only.&nbsp;&nbsp; an auto TCR function will account for this for you.&nbsp; most of the issues with a sound stage are phase and the remainder are in L vs R frequency response (IID, ITD, HRTF).The H800 will do auto TCR and let you manually adjust everything else.&nbsp; Separately, it will do Imprint and account for all cabin acoustics (impulse response), phase, etc. but still let you adjust crossover points in real-time after the tune.&nbsp; it also shows you the results.&nbsp; yes, you&#039;ll need to re-run if you change slopes.&nbsp; It also offers 6 presets; allowing for tunes for competition, daily, and seating positions.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have an IASCA tune (clinical) for driver, daily tune (fun) for driver, daily for passenger, daily for both front seats.&nbsp; i have two spare for experimentation which allow for easy comparison.&nbsp;&nbsp; I also prefer having a fiber optic input and the difference between analog and digital is huge.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="keep_hope_alive, post: 8464169, member: 576029"] ...because it's so difficult to wear the headset correctly? the problem is that the tune is optimized for one sub level only. for people that like to adjust the volume of their sub depending on music types or preference, different sub volumes can yield different tunes. the issues go away once the MS-8 is no longer controlling the sub. this vehicle was a tC and the owner likes adjusting the level often. because phase will change with slope, correct. but changing the point to what you prefer should be a user-adjustment in real-time just like other processors. i believe that crossovers points should be set by ear, not by computer. and to set by ear you need to listen and adjust AFTER time correction. like i said, i still recommend the MS-8 to people depending on their specific needs. the OP asked to tweak after the auto-tune which eliminates the MS-8 from the running unless you want to fumble through the EQ adjustments with the remote with no idea what the MS-8 actually did. the problem with a manual tune is that you need to pay careful attention to crossover slopes as they cause partial phase shifts (forward or backward, in 90 deg increments). many "tuners" totally neglect this and use a ruler only. an auto TCR function will account for this for you. most of the issues with a sound stage are phase and the remainder are in L vs R frequency response (IID, ITD, HRTF). The H800 will do auto TCR and let you manually adjust everything else. Separately, it will do Imprint and account for all cabin acoustics (impulse response), phase, etc. but still let you adjust crossover points in real-time after the tune. it also shows you the results. yes, you'll need to re-run if you change slopes. It also offers 6 presets; allowing for tunes for competition, daily, and seating positions. I have an IASCA tune (clinical) for driver, daily tune (fun) for driver, daily for passenger, daily for both front seats. i have two spare for experimentation which allow for easy comparison. I also prefer having a fiber optic input and the difference between analog and digital is huge. [/QUOTE]

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