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<blockquote data-quote="keep_hope_alive" data-source="post: 8463852" data-attributes="member: 576029">i&#039;ve used the MS-8 in other builds and it&#039;s not a perfect tune.&nbsp; the headset helps, as does rotating the head during measurement, to help with left and right separation and averaging over the area.&nbsp; inability to adjust crossovers without a re-tune is silly and a poor design.&nbsp; certainly, the soundstage with the MS-8 tune can be good and i&#039;ve had good results, but the lack of user flexibility is why people upgrade away from it.&nbsp; we didn&#039;t like the sub tune with the MS-8 and removed the sub from the MS-8 output.&nbsp; we got a good soundstage with the factory locations.&nbsp; upgrading from the MS-8 is planned.&nbsp; only two presets is highly limited compared to others.the controller is odd in that it requires the remote, and the remote is clunky and not very responsive.&nbsp; a lack of PC interface makes the MS-8 the most cumbersome unit to control of all options and my 1996 Alpine ERA-G320 was easier to operate.i recommend the MS-8 for novices that wouldn&#039;t know how to tune anyway, and don&#039;t want to fuss with a unit after initial install.&nbsp; i recommend it as a factory interface to replace a factory amp and get the most out of a factory system (and as a first step to a basic upgrade).i don&#039;t recommend the MS-8 for anyone looking to tweak and improve beyond an initial tune or for anyone looking to perfect the system.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="keep_hope_alive, post: 8463852, member: 576029"] i've used the MS-8 in other builds and it's not a perfect tune. the headset helps, as does rotating the head during measurement, to help with left and right separation and averaging over the area. inability to adjust crossovers without a re-tune is silly and a poor design. certainly, the soundstage with the MS-8 tune can be good and i've had good results, but the lack of user flexibility is why people upgrade away from it. we didn't like the sub tune with the MS-8 and removed the sub from the MS-8 output. we got a good soundstage with the factory locations. upgrading from the MS-8 is planned. only two presets is highly limited compared to others. the controller is odd in that it requires the remote, and the remote is clunky and not very responsive. a lack of PC interface makes the MS-8 the most cumbersome unit to control of all options and my 1996 Alpine ERA-G320 was easier to operate. i recommend the MS-8 for novices that wouldn't know how to tune anyway, and don't want to fuss with a unit after initial install. i recommend it as a factory interface to replace a factory amp and get the most out of a factory system (and as a first step to a basic upgrade). i don't recommend the MS-8 for anyone looking to tweak and improve beyond an initial tune or for anyone looking to perfect the system. [/QUOTE]

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