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[RobGMN Premium Member]

And you guys forget he was already od'ing and having a panic attack before he was even on the ground lol:

George Floyd told police he was struggling to breathe before he was restrained

Prosecutors detail the final moments of Floyd's life as he begged for air.

www.nbcnews.com

Keep blaming the police. They didn't make him swallow his stash so he'd get less time in prison. Floyd paid the price for the life he lived, happens all the time. He literally couldn't breathe before he was put on the ground, how am I not supposed to cuss and call people retarded?

he was struggling to breathe from an OD, so Chauvin thought it was a good idea to restrain him face down, with a knee on his neck?

You're only making Chauvin look worse.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I know that is part of your playbook to constantly claim someone is defending Trump. I am not "defending" him, I am just not falling for all the bullshit from the side who clearly hates him and thinks anyone who doesn't hate him is some kind of die hard Nazi boot licker.

You claiming you're not defending him is as much a lie as your claim that you really don't understand what makes someone more of an expert than you in any field.

You want us to believe you are smart, but also want us to beleive you are incredibly stupid.
Make up your mind.

You first tell me of ALLLLLLL the crimes you saw Trump commit first hand and we can compare notes.

Uhhh, I'M not the one who said he has to witness a crime to believe it happened. That was YOUR defense.
I think you first expressed it regarding ****, and only believing it happened if you saw it in-person.

So stick to your guns. Tell us all the crimes you saw Floyd commit. Where, and when?

Clever.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

he was struggling to breathe from an OD, so Chauvin thought it was a good idea to restrain him face down, with a knee on his neck?

You're only making Chauvin look worse.

This man was a career criminal and a drug addict. He had just tried to defraud a business with a trickery device (fake $20) and got caught. Chauvin had no idea what if any drugs this man was on or had ingested prior to the arrival of the police. However, watching this video... he worked himself into this situation that killed him. He was being hysterical and uncooperative. He absolutely resisted arrest. If he was a grown man and was calm and just listened to the officer and got his *** in the car he would most likely have been fine until the drugs got him.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You claiming you're not defending him is as much a lie as your claim that you really don't understand what makes someone more of an expert than you in any field.

You are an idiot and a liar. I never claimed any of that. I asked you a question and because you knew if you answered it your argument was shit. So this is the shit you keep repeating. Liar.

You want us to believe you are smart, but also want us to beleive you are incredibly stupid.
Make up your mind.

I don't care what you believe.

Uhhh, I'M not the one who said he has to witness a crime to believe it happened. That was YOUR defense.
I think you first expressed it regarding ****, and only believing it happened if you saw it in-person.

Neither am I liar. For the THOUSANDTH time, I said I would not be able to CONVICT a person of a crime I did not myself witness. Moron.

So stick to your guns. Tell us all the crimes you saw Floyd commit. Where, and when?

Tell us the crimes you saw Trump commit. Where and when? Come on, stick to your guns.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

His knee was on his neck, shoulder and back. Floyd's head was turned. He could breathe.

When I was assigned to babysit a section 8, they trained us on the knee on the neck procedure, specifically because they didn't want us hurting these guys and the boot camp hand to hand combat training was centered on killing. The knee in the neck is crazy effective and safe. I've seen it applied probably 100s of times on Cops. So question isn't could he breath, but rather did the knee to the neck cause him to stop breathing, and I just don't see it.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

When I was assigned to babysit a section 8, they trained us on the knee on the neck procedure, specifically because they didn't want us hurting these guys and the boot camp hand to hand combat training was centered on killing. The knee in the neck is crazy effective and safe. I've seen it applied probably 100s of times on Cops. So question isn't could he breath, but rather did the knee to the neck cause him to stop breathing, and I just don't see it.

He worked himself into that state as far as I can see.

He woke up.
Chose crimes and drugs that day.
Got busted.
Was under arrest.
Did what has become common place for these criminals... whine, cry, deny, resist. Anything they can to postpone going to jail.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Seriously. He was a criminal.

Arrests and Convictions of George Floyd

1. 1997: Drug Possession
   • Charge: Possession of a controlled substance (cocaine).
   • Outcome: Convicted.
   • Sentence: Served time in jail (exact duration not specified in sources, likely a short sentence).
   • Details: This was one of Floyd’s earliest documented arrests in Harris County, Texas.
     
     https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/06/12/george-floyd-criminal-record/
2. 1998: Theft with a Firearm
   • Charge: Theft involving a firearm (not armed robbery, as some claims misstate).
   • Outcome: Convicted.
   • Sentence: Served 10 months in Harris County Jail.
   • Details: Court records confirm this was for theft, not armed robbery. Claims of armed robbery in 1998 are inaccurate.
     
     https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/06/12/george-floyd-criminal-record/
     
     https://www.thecourierdaily.com/george-floyd-criminal-past-record-arrest/20177/
3. 2002: Drug Possession
   • Charge: Possession of a controlled substance (cocaine).
   • Outcome: Convicted.
   • Sentence: Served 8 months in prison.
   • Details: Floyd was arrested for possessing cocaine in Houston.
     
     https://www.thecourierdaily.com/george-floyd-criminal-past-record-arrest/20177/
4. 2004: Drug Possession
   • Charge: Possession of a controlled substance (cocaine).
   • Outcome: Convicted.
   • Sentence: Served 10 months in prison.
   • Details: This arrest was linked to a $10 drug transaction involving Houston police officer Gerald Goines. The conviction was questioned due to Goines’ later charges for misconduct, and a posthumous pardon was requested but not granted due to procedural issues.
     
     https://www.thecourierdaily.com/george-floyd-criminal-past-record-arrest/20177/
     
     https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/19/us/unrest-george-floyd-houston-goines.html
5. 2005: Drug Possession
   • Charge: Possession of a controlled substance (cocaine).
   • Outcome: Convicted.
   • Sentence: Served 10 months in state jail.
   • Details: Initially, the charge involved about 4 grams of cocaine, but Floyd successfully argued it was less than 1 gram, reducing the charge.
     
     https://www.thecourierdaily.com/george-floyd-criminal-past-record-arrest/20177/
6. 2007: Aggravated Robbery with a Deadly Weapon
   • Charge: Aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon (home invasion).
   • Outcome: Pleaded guilty.
   • Sentence: Served 5 years in prison (2009–2013, paroled in 2013).
   • Details: Floyd was accused of entering an apartment in Houston with five other men, impersonating a water department worker, and holding a pistol to a woman’s stomach while searching for items to steal. The victim was not confirmed pregnant, despite some claims. Floyd pleaded guilty to avoid a potential 40-year sentence if convicted at trial. He maintained to friends he was not guilty but took the plea deal due to concerns about an unfair trial.
     
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd
     
     https://www.fox9.com/news/who-was-george-floyd
     
     https://www.britannica.com/biography/George-Floyd
7. Other Arrests (1997–2007):
   • Additional Charges: Court records indicate Floyd was arrested nine times in Harris County, Texas, between 1997 and 2007. In addition to the above, these included:
     • Two theft charges (one in 1998, detailed above, and another unspecified).
     • One illegal trespass charge.
     • One charge of failure to identify to a police officer.
   • Outcome: Most resulted in short jail sentences or fines, not prison time.
   • Details: These charges were primarily non-violent, related to drug possession or minor theft. Exact dates and outcomes for these additional arrests are less detailed in sources but are confirmed by Harris County court records.
     
     https://www.politifact.com/factchec...t-exaggerates-george-floyds-criminal-history/
8. 2019: Arrest in Minneapolis
   • Charge: Not formally charged; detained briefly.
   • Outcome: Released without charges.
   • Details: Body camera footage from a May 2019 arrest in Minneapolis showed Floyd detained by police. The defense in Derek Chauvin’s trial argued this incident showed similar behavior (e.g., distress, possible drug ingestion), but the judge limited its use as evidence. This arrest did not result in a conviction.
     
     https://www.fox9.com/news/who-was-george-floyd
     
     https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-floyd-past-arrests-cant-be-used-at-trial/
9. 2020: Arrest Leading to Death
   • Charge: Suspected of passing a counterfeit $20 bill.
   • Outcome: No conviction; Floyd died during the arrest on May 25, 2020.
   • Details: Floyd was arrested in Minneapolis after a store clerk reported he used a counterfeit $20 bill. During the arrest, Derek Chauvin knelt on Floyd’s neck for over nine minutes, leading to his death, ruled a homicide by the medical examiner. Floyd was under the influence of fentanyl and methamphetamine, but the autopsy confirmed the cause of death as cardiopulmonary arrest due to law enforcement restraint, not a drug overdose.
     
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd
     
     https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/george-floyd-investigation.html
     
     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_George_Floyd

Dude liked his cociane. I hear that's bad for your heart. Generally indicates somebody is an alcoholic as well. Alcohol also leads to high blood pressure and heart failure. The criminal lifestyle is stressful, which is also bad for blood pressure and the old heart. One has to wonder, with the 1000s of "knees on necks" documented by Cops & Live PD, not to mention the all the body cam footage, why is George Floyd the only one to die from it? It would be an interesting case study.

Alcohol and Heart Health: Separating Fact from Fiction

Does a glass of wine a day keep the doctor away?

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

He worked himself into that state as far as I can see.

He woke up.
Chose crimes and drugs that day.
Got busted.
Was under arrest.
Did what has become common place for these criminals... whine, cry, deny, resist. Anything they can to postpone going to jail.

That brings up a few other points of interest as far as Chauvin's thinking. Where did they encounter George - in a car ready to drive away. What did George do - immediately pleads with them not to shoot him when there was no reason to believe he was about to be shot. Suddenly when he's in the back of the cop car he "catches" claustrophobia and fights his way. Anybody else see why Chauvin may not have believed that George was really having difficulty breathing?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Dude liked his cociane. I hear that's bad for your heart. Generally indicates somebody is an alcoholic as well. Alcohol also leads to high blood pressure and heart failure. The criminal lifestyle is stressful, which is also bad for blood pressure and the old heart. One has to wonder with the I can only assume 1000s of "knees on necks" documented by Cops & Live PD, not to mention the all the body cam footage, why is George Floyd the only one to die from it? It would be an interesting case study.

Alcohol and Heart Health: Separating Fact from Fiction

Does a glass of wine a day keep the doctor away?

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

You don't have to tell me. Not to mention he was positive for COVID, had an enlarged heart. I am sure at some point this man went to a doctor and they told him his lifestyle was not good. Sickle cell anemia I think was mentioned in the autopsy, the heart, the drugs, the Rona... come on man, you know he had hyper tension. Plus the adrenaline rush from getting caught. He sealed his own fate.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

That brings up a few other points of interest as far as Chauvin's thinking. Where did they encounter George - in a car ready to drive away. What did George do - immediately pleads with them not to shoot him when there was no reason to believe he was about to be shot. Suddenly when he's in the back of the cop car he "catches" claustrophobia and fights his way. Anybody else see why Chauvin may not have believed that George was really having difficulty breathing?

Exactly!!! The smart thing to do if he was having issues was to cooperate and ask for medical attention immediately.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Exactly!!! The smart thing to do if he was having issues was to cooperate and ask for medical attention immediately.

He was having medical issues, that's why swallowed his stash.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

He was having medical issues, that's why swallowed his stash.

Yowza!

 

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[RobGMN Premium Member]

This man was a career criminal and a drug addict. He had just tried to defraud a business with a trickery device (fake $20) and got caught. Chauvin had no idea what if any drugs this man was on or had ingested prior to the arrival of the police. However, watching this video... he worked himself into this situation that killed him. He was being hysterical and uncooperative. He absolutely resisted arrest. If he was a grown man and was calm and just listened to the officer and got his *** in the car he would most likely have been fine until the drugs got him.

So he deserved to be murdered for a misdemeanor?
Got it.

I suppose you believe you should also have been murdered for your past indiscretions.
Equal judgement for all. Right?