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[RobGMN Premium Member]

What's ridiculous is your belief women are incapable of an informed decision...

So you can't support your position in any way, and just continue to go off on tangents to avoid the facts. Like a child who got caught stealing a candy bar.
Got it.

Why does she want an abortion Rob?

What is that any business of yours or anyone else's, and what does it have to do with her right to do what she chooses with her own body?
Are you now the arbiter of what people should do with their own body? Whose permission did you have to get to have your surgery?

I hope you are not representative of typical Democrats RobGMN. If this is your mentality. People only recognize there are consequences for their actions after they commit the action. Is that why you need laws to guarantee your way out of the mess you made?

Ahhhh, "consequences". Like the consequences of getting caught committing fraud in the state of New York, or the consequences of committing insurrection at Capitol on January 6th while "waving flags and wearing hats", or the consequence of falsely declaring a company rigged voting booths to get Biden elected, or the consequences of defaming a person?

You sure weren't a fan of "consequences" for those things, but now you suddenly are?
Convenient.

And once again, Yournamehere goes on a meme spree when you guys are completely floundering and can't support your own arguments. What an amazing coincidence.

 

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[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

So you can't support your position in any way, and just continue to go off on tangents

That's amazing right there...you claimed Republicans are forcing procreation yet haven't shown proof

 

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[ThxOne Premium Member]

So you can't support your position in any way, and just continue to go off on tangents to avoid the facts. Like a child who got caught stealing a candy bar.
Got it.

What is that any business of yours or anyone else's, and what does it have to do with her right to do what she chooses with her own body?
Are you now the arbiter of what people should do with their own body? Whose permission did you have to get to have your surgery?

So instead of answering the question you throw a fit? Nice.

Ahhhh, "consequences". Like the consequences of getting caught committing fraud in the state of New York, or the consequences of committing insurrection at Capitol on January 6th while "waving flags and wearing hats", or the consequence of falsely declaring a company rigged voting booths to get Biden elected, or the consequences of defaming a person?

You sure weren't a fan of "consequences" for those things, but now you suddenly are?
Convenient.

Why do you keep talking about other things? Stay on point Rob. You wanted to talk about abortion but since we have destroyed your agenda you keep going off in different directions.

Listen Rob, If she doesn't want a kid she should make better life choices.

And once again, Yournamehere goes on a meme spree when you guys are completely floundering and can't support your own arguments. What an amazing coincidence.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

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[RobGMN Premium Member]

So instead of answering the question you throw a fit? Nice.

I answered the question. The "why" she is doing it is not mine nor anyone else's business.
Since when do we have to explain to others what we decide to do with out own body?

Why do you keep talking about other things? Stay on point Rob. You wanted to talk about abortion but since we have destroyed your agenda you keep going off in different directions.

Talk about abortion, then/. Stop with your stupid tangents of why someone got pregnant, or they should have had anal ***, or no *** at all, or avoided being ***** (a concept you seem to have not believed in until it helped your argument), or whatever sidestep you can come up with.
Tell us why a woman should not be able to choose what happens to her own body when she is pregnant.
Tell us why you think it's proper for the government to decide for her.
Tell us what other things the government should determine acceptable for what we do to our bodies.
Mandated tattoos for people whose religions forbid it?
Maybe forced sterilization until you can prove you can care for a child?
How about mandatory haircuts to match the supreme ruler?

Listen Rob, If she doesn't want a kid she should make better life choices.

A childish tangent from a guy who can't support his own argument.
Tell us: Why do you defend Trump instead of just saying he "should make better life choices"?
Why do you say I am "ruining lives" by busting people for welfare fraud, instead of saying they "should make better life choices"?
Hypocrite.

That's amazing right there...you claimed Republicans are forcing procreation yet haven't shown proof

Have shown it multiple times. Your little buddy Thxone even admitted it was true, and no one has proved otherwise.
Sorry, but your Hitler-esque attempt at repeating a lie until people believe it won't work here.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I answered the question. The "why" she is doing it is not mine nor anyone else's business.
Since when do we have to explain to others what we decide to do with out own body?

What do you care then? You can't have an abortion so why do you care if she can?

Talk about abortion, then/. Stop with your stupid tangents of why someone got pregnant, or they should have had anal ***, or no *** at all, or avoided being ***** (a concept you seem to have not believed in until it helped your argument), or whatever sidestep you can come up with.

I have done nothing but talk about it. For some reason you keep crying about it and making ignorant comments.

Tell us why a woman should not be able to choose what happens to her own body when she is pregnant.

She can do whatever she likes within the law.

Tell us why you think it's proper for the government to decide for her.

I never made this statement.

Tell us what other things the government should determine acceptable for what we do to our bodies.

I will entertain those topics when they come up.

Mandated tattoos for people whose religions forbid it?

Irrelevant tangent.

Maybe forced sterilization until you can prove you can care for a child?

Ignorant tangent.

How about mandatory haircuts to match the supreme ruler?

Stupid tangent.

A childish tangent from a guy who can't support his own argument.

Really? You just made 3 above.

Tell us: Why do you defend Trump instead of just saying he "should make better life choices"?

Why are you lashing out Rob? Are you upset?

Why do you say I am "ruining lives" by busting people for welfare fraud, instead of saying they "should make better life choices"?
Hypocrite.

Because you have an agenda.

Have shown it multiple times. Your little buddy Thxone even admitted it was true, and no one has proved otherwise.
Sorry, but your Hitler-esque attempt at repeating a lie until people believe it won't work here.

Liar, I never said they are forcing procreation.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Have shown it multiple times

No...you've tried to show that sending abortion law to the states is Republicans forcing procreation but pregnancy is only part of procreation...since you claim Republicans are forcing procreation show fact that the gop is forcing impregnation...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

No...you've tried to show that sending abortion law to the states is Republicans forcing procreation but pregnancy is only part of procreation...since you claim Republicans are forcing procreation show fact that the gop is forcing impregnation...

It's funny how you accepted the definition of procreation when you thought it proved your argument, but now the definition means nothin when you find out how definitions work.

Look closely. The 4 parts of the definition are not separated by "AND", nor by "OR". They are standalone definitions for the word.
Let's make sure you understand what that means before I AGAIN prove you are wrong.

Do you accept how definitions work, or do you think all four points must be met to define procreation?
Do you accept the definition YOU posted as being correct, or do you now want to say it is wrong?

Answer those questions, then we can move to whether the Republicans are responsible for Roe v Wade being overturned. Then, we will go to how a pregnant person is being forced to procreate if they want an abortion but their right to it has been stripped.

What do you care then? You can't have an abortion so why do you care if she can?

If the government can strip a woman of the right to do what she chooses with her body, it opens up the can of wroms of what other rights they can strip us of.
Are you OK with a government that can tell you your haircut must match the supreme leader? What about a government that tells you as a Jew that you must get a tattoo?
What other controls do you want them to assert on you?

I have done nothing but talk about it. For some reason you keep crying about it and making ignorant comments.

You've talked about everything BUT abortion.

She can do whatever she likes within the law.

Ahhh, so the LAW should decide what we can do with our bodies? Got it.
Tomorrow when they make it a law that you are not allowed to smoke or drink at home, you'll be good with that. When they decide your stereo must be limited to 80dB so you don't injure your ears, you'll be good with that.
What else do you want the gov't telling you to do with your own body?

I never made this statement.
I will entertain those topics when they come up.
Irrelevant tangent.
Ignorant tangent.
Stupid tangent.
Really? You just made 3 above.
Why are you lashing out Rob? Are you upset?
Because you have an agenda.

Ahhh, the "agenda". The agenda to stop people from committing welfare fraud. Given how this "agenda" upsets you so, you must like the fact that people steal the taxpayer's money. Maybe you are close friends with a thief. Maybe you are one, and would be angry that you got caught, as opposed to taking responsibility for your actions and accepting the consequences.
So, why all the support for Trump instead of just demanding he take responsibility and face the consequences?
Isn't the the rule you expect people to follow?

Liar, I never said they are forcing procreation.

Dope. You admitted that the Republicans were behind Roe v. Wade being overturned. Try to remember your own posts, FFS.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

It's funny how you accepted the definition of procreation when you thought it proved your argument, but now the definition means nothin when you find out how definitions work

If it meant just giving birth it would clearly say so...but it doesn't..it says generation and production...neither of which mean the end result...they are descriptive of a process again not the end result...birth is not the process of procreation it is the end result of successful procreation...

So it's you that clearly doesn't grasp the meaning but rather you're trying to spin the definition to argue...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

If it meant just giving birth it would clearly say so...but it doesn't..it says generation and production...neither of which mean the end result...they are descriptive of a process again not the end result...birth is not the process of procreation it is the end result of successful procreation...

So it's you that clearly doesn't grasp the meaning but rather you're trying to spin the definition to argue...

That doesn't answer the question.
I'll try again:
IS THE DEFINITION YOU USED TO SUPPORT YOUR ARGUMENT CORRECT, OR IS IT INCORRECT?


EDIT: Thxone did not post that. I can't erase the nested quote.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Rob, are there states she can have an abortion in?

https://edition.cnn.com/us/abortion-access-restrictions-bans-us-dg/index.html