Current events discussion

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I don't get the relevance of the myriad of definitions. Clearly, if we're discussing abortion, then the procreation we're talking about starts at conception and ends at birth unless interrupted. Yet again, the discussion becomes one of dissecting the language.

It always does for some reason

And it didn't start as abortion either...it was about an article about who Sanger truly was (not the false sainthood given to her)...then someone claimed Republicans are "forcing procreation"

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Things are not meaningless because you deny them Rob.

They are meaningless in the context of the questions.

The right to bear arms is the right to defend ones self. I can teach myself to build a gun. How are you going to give an abortion to ones self? Exactly, shut up.

The right to bear arms is the right to bear arms. A woman can learn how to, and induce, an abortion easier and faster than you could manufacture a working gun, cartridge, bullet, powder, primer.
Guaranteed.

Again, she can plan ahead. Move to a place where abortion is legal. Learn to defend herself. Carry a firearm.

To shoot the people who are taking away her right to abortion?

Meaningless tangent? Relevant points of view Rob so stop trying to ignore them because of your agenda.

The points have NOTHING to do with the questions asked. They were simply logical fallacies used to avoid answering.

Answer to question #1: Republicans helped overturn Roe vs Wade. So? Good, abortion is not a right.

You finally got an answer right.
By your logic, bearing arms is not a right.
You are wrong.

Answer to question #2: Because she made the choice to get pregnant in a place where it is illegal.

That doesn't answer the question.

Why do you care anyway, you can't get pregnant. You are allegedly a man arguing about abortion. The only reason you have for doing so is because you hate Republicans. If Democrats overturned it you would be all on board... like the follower you are.

Once again throwing meaningless tangents at the discussion, in lieu of having to admit the truth.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

It always does for some reason

And it didn't start as abortion either...it was about an article about who Sanger truly was (not the false sainthood given to her)...then someone claimed Republicans are "forcing procreation"

Apparently you don't know who Sanger was and what she did.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

They are meaningless in the context of the questions.

You are meaningless Rob. Bitching with no good reason.

The right to bear arms is the right to bear arms. A woman can learn how to, and induce, an abortion easier and faster than you could manufacture a working gun, cartridge, bullet, powder, primer.
Guaranteed.

Now this was a pointless point.

To shoot the people who are taking away her right to abortion?

It's not a right.

The points have NOTHING to do with the questions asked. They were simply logical fallacies used to avoid answering.

I answered them and true to yourself you still talk trash.

You finally got an answer right.
By your logic, bearing arms is not a right.
You are wrong.

If that is your singular view then that is your view.

That doesn't answer the question.

Once again throwing meaningless tangents at the discussion, in lieu of having to admit the truth.

Both questions were answered. I am sorry you are not getting the answers you deem correct. Entitled much Rob?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I still don't understand how anyone is "forcing procreation".

Here, problem solved. If the woman wants to have as much *** as she wants but doesn't want the responsibility of raising a child she can take her happy *** down and get a hysterectomy.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I still don't understand how anyone is "forcing procreation".

Here, problem solved. If the woman wants to have as much *** as she wants but doesn't want the responsibility of raising a child she can take her happy *** down and get a hysterectomy.

It's almost like suggesting women don't like *** and all *** is forced, as if everyone isn't ridiculously horny from our programmed nature for the purposes of procreation. The general thought of acting like pregnancy of women is all negative and there's nothing good about it is reminiscent of a ******* cult. I mean saying pregnancy and willful *** is forced procreation is like saying we should all kill ourselves to avoid the natural consequences of life. It's an absurd and quite frankly evil argument. People need to learn responsibility and care about people and stop having *** just to have *** not even knowing the power of it.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I still don't understand how anyone is "forcing procreation".

Here, problem solved. If the woman wants to have as much *** as she wants but doesn't want the responsibility of raising a child she can take her happy *** down and get a hysterectomy.

Would an analogy help?

Child has operable brain brain tumor that will absolutely kill her if not removed.
Parents will not allow surgery due to religious beliefs.
They are forcing the child to die by not allowing surgery.

Woman is pregnant.
Government will not allow her to have the abortion she wants.
This forces her to procreate. The definition of procreation is "generation and production of young".

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Would an analogy help?

Child has operable brain brain tumor that will absolutely kill her if not removed.
Parents will not allow surgery due to religious beliefs.
They are forcing the child to die by not allowing surgery.

Woman is pregnant.
Government will not allow her to have the abortion she wants.
This forces her to procreate. The definition of procreation is "generation and production of young".

Ever hear of Plan B?

The point is, she has options. Starting with not having ***. A child getting a tumor is not the same.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Ever hear of Plan B?

The point is, she has options. Starting with not having ***. A child getting a tumor is not the same.

Idk, maybe we can have a debate whether Rob is a tumor or not. Probably malignant too

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Apparently you don't know who Sanger was and what she did.

It's the other way around...you're caught in the myth of Sanger so it's pointless to point everything she did was to push eugenicsforward...

And I'm still waiting for you to prove your "Republicans at are forcing procreation"...or admitit was a lie...

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Rob feels like...

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Rob feels like...

I think talking to Rob feels like this:

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

How long until this includes the mentally ill?

Macron announces bill allowing 'aid in dying,' under 'strict conditions'

In an interview with two newspapers, President Emmanuel Macron announced legislation to allow eligible patients to administer a lethal product, alone or with assistance.

www.lemonde.fr

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Ever hear of Plan B?

The point is, she has options. Starting with not having ***. A child getting a tumor is not the same.

Plan B works for only 72 hours after fertilization. That doesn't solve the abortion issue.

Why do analogies confuse you so much?
They are both examples of a person being forced to do something with their body.

The woman is forced to procreate, the child is forced to die.
What if the government decided to outlaw surgery for people over 75, since they are nearing end-of-life anyway?
Acceptable?

I think talking to Rob feels like this:

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Well, no one asked you to be here. Maybe stop griping about your personal choices and just go away.
While you're gone, get a job and contribute to society.