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[Buck 5,000+ posts]

 

[Speed Chaser]

You got to have Nazis who else would be fighting the frontline for Ukraine

 

[Firewalker]

It shouldn't matter what Trump does- Biden is going against what he promised the American people.

And Trump didn't on a daily basis? He posted daily trolling while president or we are supposed to think he was the one posting, and continues to this very day. It does matter what Trump did and still does with the trolling and lies constantly. The ONE TIME Biden Trolls the right on Twitter or Tiktok and throws it right back in their faces, the right throws a fit over it. Trump isn't exactly the brightest bulb either and betting he couldn't turn on a computer either.

 

[Firewalker]

Trump tweeted but was still taking care of business. We all know Biden didn't tweet that. He was sleeping, and don't even say Biden is doing more for this country than Trump. If you do, I'll remind you of the invasion at the border, high inflation, highest drug overdoses in history, and the wars.

Biden is too busy being "two-faced" and saying "I am doing all I can to fix the boarder issue," but what you fail to admit, he's constantly trying to sue Texas for putting fences and placing military down there to guard it.

Only thing that Trump did was play golf on the taxpayers dime more then anyone in history of the Presidency regardless of if it was 1 term or 2 terms. He blew away Obama's golfing by far. Not too mention only doing it at his golf courses so he could charge the secret service and the government millions of dollars for the security, golf cart rentals and anything else he could think of. I am no fan of any President golfing on our dime. But at least Obama did some at military bases where security is much higher.

Trump told over 30,000 lies. And continues to this day lying in public and on twitter.

Look I am NOT A BIDEN FAN. I can't stand either of those two people. But facts are Trump and his allies do that stuff all the time. And the one time Biden does it the right loses their minds over it. But yet when you say something about Trump regarding him doing it or his allies in the GOP. Well then its wrong and so on and so on.

Can't have it both ways people. Look I don't like anyone pulling this stuff. But if it is going to happen then yeah I am gonna sit back and laugh at the one Biden did throwing it back in the MAGA crowds faces.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

And Trump didn't on a daily basis? He posted daily trolling while president or we are supposed to think he was the one posting, and continues to this very day. It does matter what Trump did and still does with the trolling and lies constantly. The ONE TIME Biden Trolls the right on Twitter or Tiktok and throws it right back in their faces, the right throws a fit over it. Trump isn't exactly the brightest bulb either and betting he couldn't turn on a computer either.

I'm not making a pro Trump argument with antics. I'm just saying Biden admin calls white people/white supremacy the #1 domestic terrorist threat to America, which isn't just simply wrong, it's meant to cause civil war and strife in our country, and people are being unfairly targeted by the gov for legit and legal political views. Trump didn't try to say every democrat voter was a terrorist or threat to the country, like Biden does MAGA.

"“We must be honest with each other and with ourselves,” Biden said. “Too much of what’s happening in our country today is not normal. Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic.”"

White nationalism is a political ideology that mainstreams racist conspiracy theories

U.S. President Joe Biden delivers a prime-time speech on Sept. 1, 2022, in Philadelphia. Alex Wong/Getty ImagesIn September 2022, President Joe Biden convened a summit called United We Stand to denoun...

news.yahoo.com

 

[Speed Chaser]

30,000 lies sound like fake news

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I see I read that report wrong. I'll give that, but is that a reason to not prosecute the guy? Did you read the entire report? Here's a bit of what was written.

WASHINGTON — Special counsel Robert Hur has declined to prosecute President Joe Biden for his handling of classified documents but said in a report released Thursday that Biden’s practices “present serious risks to national security” and added that part of the reason he wouldn't charge Biden was that the president could portray himself as an "elderly man with a poor memory" who would be sympathetic to a jury.

“Our investigation uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen,” the report said, but added that the evidence “does not establish Mr. Biden’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.”
They admit he took the records while not in the presidency, but then say is not guilty of it?

The rest of your post was a bunch of nonsense that you pulled from out of the air. Republicans bragging about punching people when it was the democrats that literally tore up cities and created "No Go Zones" where the police can't go? I believe it was Biden who said he wanted to take Trump to the locker room and beat the hell out of him.

Prosecutors will choose not to prosecute all the time based on if they think it's a losing game. Along with them saying the "could be portrayed as", they also said that they did not have proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
That's where Trump stumbled when he made such an issue out of returning the docs, and they ended up having to go in and seize them.
That was a willful act.

As far as the "punching", I was actually speaking of people right on this forum. More than once, members here have requesting physical altercation when someone called them out on their BS. One guy actually claimed he was buying plane tickets to fly somewhere and beat up a guy after the guy called a bluff and gave his address.

And maybe it just seems this way, but it more often than not seems to be the "Republican" thing to lean to violence when things aren't going in their favor. Anyone recall the noose and gallows with chants of "hang Pence" on January 6th? Anyone recall Jan 6th? Anyone notice how the Republican response to not getting their way is to make a show of force with guns?
Maybe both parties want to, but only one makes a public show of it?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

30,000 lies sound like fake news

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Except there's a database of them, and they can all be cross-referenced with all the speeches, tweets, public appearances, press conferences, etc. that he has made and that have all been recorded.

Really hard to claim "I never said that" and then someone holds up their phone with a recording of you actually saying it.

Trump tweeted but was still taking care of business. We all know Biden didn't tweet that. He was sleeping, and don't even say Biden is doing more for this country than Trump. If you do, I'll remind you of the invasion at the border, high inflation, highest drug overdoses in history, and the wars.

Biden is too busy being "two-faced" and saying "I am doing all I can to fix the boarder issue," but what you fail to admit, he's constantly trying to sue Texas for putting fences and placing military down there to guard it.

"taking care of business"? The economy pretty much collapsed under his watch. The current border crisis started under his watch. The Afghan pullout that everyone screamed was a failure was orchestrated under his watch. Putin planned a war under his watch.
All while he tweeted 25,000 times, fighting with Hollywood stars, and playing golf more than any POTUS in history.

I'm not sure I ever "failed to admit" anything about Texas, fences, or the the military there.
What discussion did that happen in?

the only reason the country was in shambles was due to the all the rioting by the democrats. They tried really hard to make him fail.

So, tell how the USA is better now than it was when Trump was in office? You better provide facts!

The riots caused the near-collapse of our economy and hundreds of thousands of deaths from COVID?
I'm very interested in hearing the story of HOW, exactly they did that.

The economy is better than when Trump left office and there is no way you can deny it.
The economy is pretty much THE indicator of whether things are good or bad, as it pretty quickly reflects when other things go bad.
I have provided literally pages of charts and data comparing metrics from both administrations that verify what I say. Just b/c some people here think it's "fake news" because math confuses them, does not mean the economy is actually "Fake news".
FFS, one guy actually thinks the numbers have been fudged back to 1947 just to make Trump look bad.

 

[Speed Chaser]

we all know the standards for judging what is a lie for Trump is completely different than the standards for Biden or Democrats in general for that matter. But you can deny it most Democrats do. Oh yea the border cris started with the man who had record-low border crossing and didn't start with the man who opened the border for illegals to come in

 

[Firewalker]

30,000 lies sound like fake news

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Actually multiple n entities have proven it with fact checking. Some obviously like the Washington post tend to lean left some, others are non-partisan.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...020/trump-lies-false-presidency-b1790285.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

Washington Post counts 30,573 false or misleading claims in four years by Trump

The Washington Post reported on Wednesday that former President Trump made a total of 30,573 false or misleading claims during his time in office.The Post only counted one inaccurate claim per…

thehill.com

Final 'Fact-Checker' Numbers Show Just How Nuts Trump's Last Year Really Was

The president made 30,573 false or misleading claims during his four years in office, with nearly half of them coming during his final year.

www.huffpost.com

Trump lied more than 30,000 times in four years. No wonder we're still exhausted.

Washington Post fact checkers have released their final tally of presidential BS.

www.motherjones.com

Trust me that is just from a quick 10 second search. Trump lied constantly during his presidency.

 

[Firewalker]

we all know the standards for judging what is a lie for Trump is completely different than the standards for Biden or Democrats in general for that matter. But you can deny it most Democrats do. Oh yea the border cris started with the man who had record-low border crossing and didn't start with the man who opened the border for illegals to come in
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As I said I can't stand Biden either. So go ahead and think I'm one of those who think that way but I don't. I'm not for the GOP or the Democrats both are one and the same anymore.

Btw I get this feeling with a location like Mars and nothing showing up on your profile where it shows post count you are 2nd account for someone here.

 

[Speed Chaser]

oh nice i have mysterious back story already as a new member

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

we all know the standards for judging what is a lie for Trump is completely different than the standards for Biden or Democrats in general for that matter. But you can deny it most Democrats do. Oh yea the border cris started with the man who had record-low border crossing and didn't start with the man who opened the border for illegals to come in
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Your attempts are weak at best.
If ANY president lied even 1/10th as much as Trump, we would all know about it. The man was near pathological.
And no, it had nothing to do with "what you call a lie". it had to do with him saying things that were patently false, and even repeating them multiple times after the "mean media" pointed them out.
Over THIRTY THOUSAND of them during his 1460 days in office.

Maybe you'll think this is "fake news", but here is HOW the current border crisis started under Trump:

In just three fiscal years, the numbers well more than DOUBLED. Tell us how you think that is Biden's fault

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Normalizing child sacrifice as a religious right (rite as well):

"The abortion ritual involves the recitation of two of the group’s tenets and reinforces the idea of bodily autonomy.

"The Satanic Abortion Ritual is a destruction ritual that serves as a protective rite,” the website states. “Its purpose is to cast off notions of guilt, shame, and mental discomfort that a patient may be experiencing due to choosing to have a legal and medically safe abortion.”"

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

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No more crazy than practicing cannibalism every Sunday, wearing a spaghetti strainer as a hat, thinking your god lives on a planet hidden behind the moon, or your god wants you to fly a private jet paid for by your followers.

'Think maybe the group does what they do just to point out how ridiculous it all really is?

 

[Speed Chaser]

So your proof for why the border crisis is Trump's fault is a CBP statistics on Claims of Fear

Claims of Fear

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

instead of "CBP Enforcement Statistics” page that provides a comprehensive overview of all interactions that U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) has with individuals at the border.

As for the lying I stand by what I said there is definitely a double stand of what is considered a lie for Trump vs the Biden administration if you have too much TDS to see it oh well