This reads like you're asking me to agree with your opinions and beliefs when they have zero basis in fact. Sorry chief, no can do.
I "portray myself as an educated person"? What does that mean? I went to school and I admit that. I read a lot and I admit that. I retain a lot and I admit that. I eschew beliefs and personal opinion when arguing matters of politics, science, data and statistics.
Beliefs and opinions should be argued about your favorite team, your favorite restaurant, your favorite color.
They have no place in science, politics, statistics.
What facts have you shown me that I have "spun off" of?
OK. I asked Spokey this (and expectedly got no response), so I'll ask you: If you KNOW what Trump did NOT mean with his words, please explain what he DID mean with his words. Refer to all the quotes from his speech.
Describe in detail what he meant. Explain why he would be telling people to "fight like hell" if there was NOTHING they could legally do to change the vote.
WHAT
exactly was he exhorting them to do with all those words about stopping the election of Biden?
How does fighting in the streets result in stopping the electoral process or attempting a coup?
You do know that the events of Jan 6th happened in the Capitol building on the day Biden was to be officially voted in, and the insurrection was an attempt to stop the process, yes?
"Punch Trump in the face"? You realize that Trump and his sycophants wanted to hang Mike Pence because he didn't agree with stopping the electoral vote, yes?
You seem to be angry with rioters in general. Do you feel they should be punished if caught?
If so, how do you feel about Trump's promise to free the Jan 6th insurrectionists if he gets elected?
Good deal, or bad?
What do you mean "allow" an investigation? As POTUS and self-proclaimed multi-billionaire, Trump could investigate anything he wanted. If you're suggesting he is so powerless that he couldn't (as POTUS) get anything he wanted investigated, then is he really a guy you want as POTUS?
We keep hearing how Biden is the dark underlord of the country and is doing all KINDS of wild stuff. But Trump can't even get an investigation rolling? He sounds pathetic.
I think that was horrible on many levels. Just as I thought it was horrible when Reagan was shot, when Brady was shot, when the Kennedys were shot, and so on.
It's a perfect example of people who turn to violence or other actions instead of using their brain. You've seen examples of it on this forum. It pisses me off b/c it demonstrates the horrible state of our helthcare system and how people with mental illness are handled.
It pisses me off because anti-gun nuts immediately grab onto it as a way to say guns are bad, while ignoring the fact that no gun has ever taken action on its own and killed someone.
It pisses me off because the whole situation ends up not being at all about the injured or killed, but just another tool for people to get their way by molding people's opinions through their heartstrings.
It's just sh*t all around.
I never denied any of them happened, and I have said this multiple times. If you think I have, you are thinking of the wrong guy. And I'll ask this: As a brand new member with very few posts, how would you claim to know my opinion on a topic that hasn't really been discussed during your tenure here?
Are you someone who got booted and made a comeback, or a dupe account for someone else here?
Regardless, I don't see where any of the riots were an attempt to interrupt the electoral vote for a president to get into office, on the DAY of the electoral vote.
Which protest are you talking about where they tried to prevent the completion of an election process?
I assume you would be talking about it happening to a Republican nominee. Was it Trump, or Bush "2", Bush "1", Reagan, or going back even further?
Which protest was an attempt at a coup?
I looked it up and they list all of the places of worship that were vandalized, even detailing the type of vandalism. They do mention that at one place, someone set the book of Mormon on fire. There is nothing about a house of worship being set on fire, or burned down. That would be a pretty big deal that you'd expect to be listed along with the other details, but the only thing I can find regarding Mormon anything being burned is a ton of news on that book being set ablaze on the steps of a church.
So, I can't say it never happened, but there seems to be no info to support the claim. And that would be quite unusual, given the amount of press it all got.
Yes. I read that. And while I don't support the way people fought for their rights, it is the perfect example of why the state shouldn't be involved in matters of religion and morality.
Why do religious people think that everyone must follow THEIR religious beliefs, and that laws should result from their belief of an imaginary bearded man in the sky?
Would you be OK if the tables were turned and your state instituted a law that you wife and daughter must wear a burka because a religion demands it?
Would you be OK if the state made it illegal for you to eat pork because a religion forbids it?
Would you be Ok if the state made it illegal for you to even PRACTICE a religion because the STATE forbade it?
I would be interested in genuine answers to these questions, and may even include the "why" to you answer.
This is all stuff you have to think of in the big picture of our country. Your religion is not EVERYONE'S religion, and your religion should not be a basis of law that applies to everyone.
Heck, the First Amendment even says it: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."
"Known as the establishment clause, the opening lines of the First Amendment prohibit the government from creating an official religion or favoring one religion (or nonreligion) over another."
If you create a law based on a rule of Catholicism (Thou shall not commit adultery), then you are favoring a religion over a religion (or non-religion) that may have no such rule, such as the Mormons.
How ironic is it that the Mormons are OK with polygmay, but not polyandry, or same-*** marriage?
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