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<blockquote data-quote="ShakesAllDay" data-source="post: 3355613" data-attributes="member: 579099">Your patience is wearing thin?&nbsp; Your ability to grasp the simple concept presented is wearing thin.&nbsp; This isn&#039;t about social norms or your &quot;don&#039;t ask don&#039;t tell&quot; policy.This is about the law.&nbsp; I am wanting to discuss the law.&nbsp; The eBay listing was used as an example.&nbsp; Do you know anything about copyright laws?&nbsp; Any info you have would be appreciated.I found a tidbit wrt computer software, which may be similar to how digital copies of music are handled...&quot;Copyright and Digital FilesCan I backup my computer software?Yes, under certain conditions as provided by section 117 of the Copyright Act. Although the precise term used under section 117 is “archival” copy, not “backup” copy, these terms today are used interchangeably. This privilege extends only to computer programs and not to other types of works.Under section 117, you or someone you authorize may make a copy of an original computer program if:* the new copy is being made for archival (i.e., backup) purposes only;* you are the legal owner of the copy; and* any copy made for archival purposes is either destroyed, or transferred with the original copy, once the original copy is sold, given away, or otherwise transferred.&quot;If the above applies to digital copies of CDs, then I am correct in my assumption.&nbsp; It seems you can have a backup, but only if you retain the original as well.Again, please realize I&#039;m not for or against music copying/distribution in this discussion... I want unbiased discussion.EDIT:&nbsp; Just noticed something... &quot;This privilege extends only to computer programs and not to other types of works.&quot;Hmmm... so, how are &quot;backups&quot; of music handled.&nbsp; Everything I find says you cannot create copies, even for personal use.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ShakesAllDay, post: 3355613, member: 579099"] Your patience is wearing thin? Your ability to grasp the simple concept presented is wearing thin. This isn't about social norms or your "don't ask don't tell" policy. This is about the law. I am wanting to discuss the law. The eBay listing was used as an example. Do you know anything about copyright laws? Any info you have would be appreciated. I found a tidbit wrt computer software, which may be similar to how digital copies of music are handled... "Copyright and Digital Files Can I backup my computer software? Yes, under certain conditions as provided by section 117 of the Copyright Act. Although the precise term used under section 117 is “archival” copy, not “backup” copy, these terms today are used interchangeably. This privilege extends only to computer programs and not to other types of works. Under section 117, you or someone you authorize may make a copy of an original computer program if: * the new copy is being made for archival (i.e., backup) purposes only; * you are the legal owner of the copy; and * [B]any copy made for archival purposes is either destroyed, or transferred with the original copy, once the original copy is sold, given away, or otherwise transferred[/B]." If the above applies to digital copies of CDs, then I am correct in my assumption. It seems you can have a backup, but only if you retain the original as well. Again, please realize I'm not for or against music copying/distribution in this discussion... I want unbiased discussion. EDIT: Just noticed something... "This privilege extends only to computer programs and not to other types of works." Hmmm... so, how are "backups" of music handled. Everything I find says you cannot create copies, even for personal use. [/QUOTE]

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