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<blockquote data-quote="Buck" data-source="post: 8723536" data-attributes="member: 591582">i definitely get that.well intel still has a large lithography at like 22nm iirc, even the i9-10900k.&nbsp; amd has that 7 nm lithography.&nbsp; it really seems to be more efficient.&nbsp; i think that&#039;s why the i9 wattage is higher than an equivalent amd.&nbsp;&nbsp; the i9 is one hell of a processor though, so are some of the i7&#039;s.&nbsp; but intel doesn&#039;t even offer a pcie 4.0 on any of their motherboards yet.&nbsp; i think intel may have been the big dog for so long that they haven&#039;t innovated enough.see i have a new type of ssd hardrive.&nbsp; it plugs into the pcie 4.0 port.&nbsp; it will read and write at over 4000 mb/s.&nbsp; its rated to read at i think 4800-4900 mb/s while it can be written at 4200 mb/s.&nbsp; they are tiny cards, like the size of memory cards, and they actually stick under some of the heatsinks in my motherboard (i have 2x m2 slots, one is directly connected to cpu in the same way a memory card is).&nbsp; so when you talk about the OS and program files for applications, that&#039;s going to be significantly faster than a 2.5&quot; ssd with a sata cable.there&#039;s features like that that made me go with amd over intel.&nbsp; i mean i have last year&#039;s processor, so to speak.&nbsp; so i have room to upgrade.&nbsp; idk if you&#039;ve seen the ryzen 5000 series release, but you can&#039;t find one of those unless you give up an arm and a leg.&nbsp; i would&#039;ve gotten a 5800x if they were available for the actual price they&#039;re supposed to be.&nbsp; i&#039;m not paying ******* 100 or 200 over.&nbsp; i&#039;ll wait and just sell my 3800xt in 6 months or a year and wait for the price to go down.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Buck, post: 8723536, member: 591582"] [B]i definitely get that.[/B] well intel still has a large lithography at like 22nm iirc, even the i9-10900k. amd has that 7 nm lithography. it really seems to be more efficient. i think that's why the i9 wattage is higher than an equivalent amd. the i9 is one hell of a processor though, so are some of the i7's. but intel doesn't even offer a pcie 4.0 on any of their motherboards yet. i think intel may have been the big dog for so long that they haven't innovated enough. see i have a new type of ssd hardrive. it plugs into the pcie 4.0 port. it will read and write at over 4000 mb/s. its rated to read at i think 4800-4900 mb/s while it can be written at 4200 mb/s. they are tiny cards, like the size of memory cards, and they actually stick under some of the heatsinks in my motherboard (i have 2x m2 slots, one is directly connected to cpu in the same way a memory card is). so when you talk about the OS and program files for applications, that's going to be significantly faster than a 2.5" ssd with a sata cable. there's features like that that made me go with amd over intel. i mean i have last year's processor, so to speak. so i have room to upgrade. idk if you've seen the ryzen 5000 series release, but you can't find one of those unless you give up an arm and a leg. i would've gotten a 5800x if they were available for the actual price they're supposed to be. i'm not paying ******* 100 or 200 over. i'll wait and just sell my 3800xt in 6 months or a year and wait for the price to go down. [/QUOTE]

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