cold air intake vs. standard intake

[zachzchw 5,000+ posts]

Looking at a new intake for my truck, any reason to get the "cold air intake" over the one just labeled "air intake"?

Theres only a $10 difference in price, just wondering which is better.

Thanks

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[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

get the cold air if you feel like it. It'll only make about a 3-5hp difference between the two. Personally, I'd get the CAI, it's 10$, and itll prolly make the car a lil faster.

 

[96 328ic 10+ year member]

get the cold air if you feel like it. It'll only make about a 3-5hp difference between the two. Personally, I'd get the CAI, it's 10$, and itll prolly make the car a lil faster.

no it wont and no it wont

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

you don't want to get into a argument, just accept that I'm right.

For his situation, it really doesn't matter. He's only paying for an extra ft or two or piping.

 

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

Got a pic of the CAI and just the normal one ?

Usually "short rams" are alot cheaper than a CAI. If its a real CAI i dont see any reason why you shouldnt

96 328ic, you dont want to get into an argument with marley. Its a loosing battle.

 

[PowerdByGuiness 10+ year member]

x2 on dont argue wtih marley

most companies will brand their shit short rams as cold air intakes

most intakes will rest under your hood and **** up hotter engine air at idle. a true cold air picks up air from outside the engine compartment, at a much cooler temperature.

a short ram referred to as a cold air is as retarded as using a circle saw and cutting a hole in a sealed box and calling it ****ing ported

 

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

You can still have a ported box with a hole in it.

I did it with my shiva, was tuned to 56hz i believe...lol

If its an ebay CAI ist probably just a short ram

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

Thank you for the compliments.

Short ram is just advertising another way to say regular intake. All those are are just carbon fiber/aluminum/etc. pieces that take the place of the stock intake track(usually), although sometimes they may use a different route.

I'd say get the cold air. If its 10$ more, and you might even get some peformance out of it (CAI will add some hp on most cars over a stock intake), then do it. I know I would.

 

[dbhittin 5,000+ posts]

u wont notice a diff between cold air vs short ram depending on the "car". so that being said, your tubing is still next to the engine, so the air is gonna heat up.. also, most probly didn't know this, on your intake manifold, there is coolant lines that go through and heat it back up.. soo either way, its not gonna help at all. u can remove those lines and reroute them like i did to my cars, but some its not worth it... nother thing u can do is wrap the intake piping with thermo wrap and that helps it from gettin hot... ive done lots of research and tried things and ive found that the grey pvc pipe works best for intake cause it doesn't get hot like metal and yea lol... anyways go ahead and say im wrong, but its just intake.. not like ur gaining 50hp from it.. who cares

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

u wont notice a diff between cold air vs short ram depending on the "car". so that being said, your tubing is still next to the engine, so the air is gonna heat up.. also, most probly didn't know this, on your intake manifold, there is coolant lines that go through and heat it back up.. soo either way, its not gonna help at all. u can remove those lines and reroute them like i did to my cars, but some its not worth it... nother thing u can do is wrap the intake piping with thermo wrap and that helps it from gettin hot... ive done lots of research and tried things and ive found that the grey pvc pipe works best for intake cause it doesn't get hot like metal and yea lol... anyways go ahead and say im wrong, but its just intake.. not like ur gaining 50hp from it.. who cares

True on diff part, but we need to know what,exactly, is the car we are dealing with here.

Those lines are the coolant lines, they are on every manifold. Thats how your coolant circulates throughout the block. They only "heat up" your engine if your radiator sucks, and isn't doing it's job. But yes, they do do "heat up" the engine, in the sense that they circulate hot fluid throughout the block. To help stop this, grab some "water wetter" at the parts store. It helps keep the coolant temps down, which will aid in performance. Another step could be buying thicker, and more heat-resistant coolant lines. I wrapped mine in this fake braided metal shit, just cuz it looks pretty cool. Won't really help much, but I was simply throwing it out there. Personally, unless you are adimant(sp) about performance, I would just buy some water wetter and call it a day. That stuff works very well from personal use.

Your whole goal with the car is to make the engine as cold as possible, once it is running.

Black or grey PVC works fine, it's cosmetics that deter people from pvc. I won't get into it now, but there are some other reasons as well. I would just make my own out of some PVC and plumbing. You can buy some gloss black paint, and simply paint the PVC when done, and it may look better than you think. I painted half of my intercooler piping flat black and it actually looks pretty clean. Doesn't popout at you, yet when you look at it, it is a nice touch. Sometimes flow in an engine bay looks much superior than chrome does.

 

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

The pastic still gets hot.

Buying aluminum over plastic is only a couple degrees difference. I remember someone doing a test about it.

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

The pastic still gets hot.Buying aluminum over plastic is only a couple degrees difference. I remember someone doing a test about it.

well, I guess that solves that question forever.

 

[Cobra Commander 10+ year member]

There are short intakes which some refer to as warm air intakes. They have supposedly shown increased HP at WOT in the higher end. So, they are not always bad. I had an "initake" in my IS300, dynoed 7 hp more. Not that big of a difference but what I did notice, is better throttle response and pick "AFTER" 50-60mph at WOT. It was really significant, but it depends on the car.(As was stated earlier.)

 

[Alpineinstaller 10+ year member]

i read an article saying not to make intakes out of PVC piping, i think it said that once heated up it releases gasses that corrode your seals and gaskets or something( im not trying to argue in any way Marley //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif )

 

[zachzchw 5,000+ posts]

Its a 1997 Olds Bravada, so it will never be a "fast" car. Just looking to add a few things here and there.

Thanks for all the help on this guys.

Engine parts>me.