Man.. Amazing.. They are either a love 'em or hate 'em company it seems.
What are the pro's saying about CDT's??? How about professional reviews?
What are the pro's saying about CDT's??? How about professional reviews?
Any brand that has enjoyed years in the spot light will soon develope people getting sick of hearing about it. Look at RE,ID,ED, and many others. Every other post at one time would be about them and now they dont come up anywhere near as much. Now you hear all about rainbow and down the line the same thing will also happen. Its just the way it is. CDT is very popular overseas in europe and there are TONS of reviews in mags over there. I have a few of them I got with tests against some of the other high end europe compaines. I think i have one on my comp. If you like i could email it to you.
Hebrew Hammer
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dude...I've been around the block a few years...allot of my close friends are multi world champs and many more very well respected competitors...I can't name one that use them and infact I can't name a time when they were in the spotlight...
I never said anything about competition, simply mag reviews. Personally both IMO are a waste. You never know if the mag is being paid and when you compete your impressing judge. I doubt a judge has the same musical preference as me. Its more of a hobby if you ask me. Also yes cdt was in the spotlight, trust me i should know ive sold them for 7 years and would get at least 20+ messages a day on every forum im a member at. You would also see every other post CDT this CDT that. Also im not just a user of CDT, i have owned some of the highest end set you can buy. Im not saying one is better than the other. I have seen what its all about beyond a selling and using level. I know what the manufacturing is all about and what it cost to make. It is ALL overpriced and over hyped //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Sure if you have some links, feel free to just PM to me.. I love a good read. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Its actually on my comp so id have to email it to you //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif
Hebrew Hammer-If I use your perspective on this thread-Then this would be true correct.
I do not know any of the people named below personally-Have I sat in a couple of the vehicles on the list or heard them in the last 17 years yes. Do I know people that know these poeple yes. Does that make me cool, "NO". Means I was at the right place at the right time. WOOT
MB Quart-Awsome-Many world Final titles
JBL-Gary Biggs-World Titles buy them
Rockford Fosgate-Mark Fukuda, Wayne Harris-World Champions-Great stuff
Focal-Our Very own SQChevy-Multi world titles
Oz Audio-World Titles
Bob Johann-PPI, Xtant, JVC, MTX
Harry Kimura-USD
Richie Inferrera-a/d/s
Tommy Clark-PPI
Richard Clark-Alpine(I pretty sure this is correct from back in the day)
David "Fishman" Rivera-AudioControl, Clarion
The list could go and go-Pioneer, JL, Dynaudio, Image Dynamics.
You could find brands that people are in shock that where in cars that won.
I mean just look at how many car's Spearker Works built with different brands in them. How many legedary cars came out of there.
I mean hell I think ever major brand has been in a car at one time or another.
I mean s**t I can google search and find tons of brands and people that have won with all kinds of different stuff.
There are many brands that have made it to the finals. The list would fill up a page.
In your thought process it would mean any brand having world SQ titles is at the top. We both know this is not true. I would bet that anyone of a multitude of world champions, expert tuners/installers(Look on the list above) could take just about any quality product, install it properly, apply good processing and win. Does it take more work with some brands than others.IMO "YES".
We could even do a list for sound deadners.
Is CDT the best no, is it the worst no-Don hit on the head "It is ALL overpriced and over hyped"
All these manafuctures have access to same materials, designs ect. Hell look at Alpine and the F1 comp sets. If we do not take other things into consideration other than just brand then this should be true right. I should all be able to take any of these brands and throw them in my car and win JBL-Seas-Dynaudio ect.
We both know no one is just going to buy a gret brand throw it in a car and win a world title.
I have had brands that cover the spectrum to some extent.
I think just about almost any brand(I said almost any) can win a show-I believe 75% is in the installers hands and the other 25% is having the expertise to tune it.IMO
I can take a perfect set of comps through them in a door. I can take a great quality comp set, deaden, place them in better locations and it will sound better.
I am no expert at all and Hebrew you could kill me at doing any of this stuff but come on. You bash almost every brand out there. Right now its just CDT.
If someone wins with CDT then following what you say. CDT would be one the best around correct.
I bet if I ask your opinion on Dynaudio this conversation would go a very different way. I am not trying to argue with you so please do not take this the wrong way. I am just trying to understand all the bashing of so many different products.
I do not know any of the people named below personally-Have I sat in a couple of the vehicles on the list or heard them in the last 17 years yes. Do I know people that know these poeple yes. Does that make me cool, "NO". Means I was at the right place at the right time. WOOT
MB Quart-Awsome-Many world Final titles
JBL-Gary Biggs-World Titles buy them
Rockford Fosgate-Mark Fukuda, Wayne Harris-World Champions-Great stuff
Focal-Our Very own SQChevy-Multi world titles
Oz Audio-World Titles
Bob Johann-PPI, Xtant, JVC, MTX
Harry Kimura-USD
Richie Inferrera-a/d/s
Tommy Clark-PPI
Richard Clark-Alpine(I pretty sure this is correct from back in the day)
David "Fishman" Rivera-AudioControl, Clarion
The list could go and go-Pioneer, JL, Dynaudio, Image Dynamics.
You could find brands that people are in shock that where in cars that won.
I mean just look at how many car's Spearker Works built with different brands in them. How many legedary cars came out of there.
I mean hell I think ever major brand has been in a car at one time or another.
I mean s**t I can google search and find tons of brands and people that have won with all kinds of different stuff.
There are many brands that have made it to the finals. The list would fill up a page.
In your thought process it would mean any brand having world SQ titles is at the top. We both know this is not true. I would bet that anyone of a multitude of world champions, expert tuners/installers(Look on the list above) could take just about any quality product, install it properly, apply good processing and win. Does it take more work with some brands than others.IMO "YES".
We could even do a list for sound deadners.
Is CDT the best no, is it the worst no-Don hit on the head "It is ALL overpriced and over hyped"
All these manafuctures have access to same materials, designs ect. Hell look at Alpine and the F1 comp sets. If we do not take other things into consideration other than just brand then this should be true right. I should all be able to take any of these brands and throw them in my car and win JBL-Seas-Dynaudio ect.
We both know no one is just going to buy a gret brand throw it in a car and win a world title.
I have had brands that cover the spectrum to some extent.
I think just about almost any brand(I said almost any) can win a show-I believe 75% is in the installers hands and the other 25% is having the expertise to tune it.IMO
I can take a perfect set of comps through them in a door. I can take a great quality comp set, deaden, place them in better locations and it will sound better.
I am no expert at all and Hebrew you could kill me at doing any of this stuff but come on. You bash almost every brand out there. Right now its just CDT.
If someone wins with CDT then following what you say. CDT would be one the best around correct.
I bet if I ask your opinion on Dynaudio this conversation would go a very different way. I am not trying to argue with you so please do not take this the wrong way. I am just trying to understand all the bashing of so many different products.
WhoSayWho?
5,000+ posts
Preston Caught a Predator
I don't even know why any of us takes the time to respond to HH's posts anymore. He has already said that he can't think of a component set under $600 that would be worthy of his recomendation.
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Pickzilla-HH is not a tool, there is no need for a personnal attack on HH. He has tons of knowledge. I am not trying to personnally attack HH, just asking him a question. I like HH just sometimes he is overbearing. Unless you have tons of knowledge be careful about challenging HH. He is very well respected on many other forums. He just has access to some of the worlds most expensive and exotic stuff.
I hope no one to include HH took what I said as a personnal attack on HH because its not, I was just trying to reason with him.
I hope no one to include HH took what I said as a personnal attack on HH because its not, I was just trying to reason with him.
WhoSayWho?
5,000+ posts
Preston Caught a Predator
I am not so certain that HH is worthy of the deference people show him. I am not saying he is an evil person, I just think that it is a little silly for him to take the position that you can't buy a decent set of speakers for
Thats why I asked him what I did to show that he is being a little to generalized perhaps. HH can be overbearing but he usually is trying to help. He is just abrasive a lot of the time. He does put out some good info, his delivery just sucks sometimes. Gotta take him with a grain a salt most of the time.
I do agree 100% with this statement-I just think that it is a little silly for him to take the position that you can't buy a decent set of speakers for
But
I do agree 100% with this statement-I just think that it is a little silly for him to take the position that you can't buy a decent set of speakers for
But
Hebrew Hammer
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ahhh.....did your feelings get hurt?....
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