CDT Components are they as good as some people say??

[Hebrew Hammer 10+ year member]

How about this...you'll never see a car win a finals either MECA or IASCA using cdt....and you have to understand...that it fits a price point for them...I will say this to the day I die.... CDT IS HORRIBLE!!!!!

 

[Hebrew Hammer 10+ year member]

So expensive = good ???????????? ok???

and this is comming from a poster who buys speakers and has no clue how to wire them....

yeah I read your previous posts....some good comedy there....

 

[Hebrew Hammer 10+ year member]

Now, now....can't we just be nice? HH has quite a bit of expertise when it comes to this stuff. Yeah......he may be blunt about it and say exactly what he thinks, but that is just how it is. He is giving his "opinion" on what he thinks about it and I'm sure if you talk to many sq guys that they will have similar things to say, but will explain them a little differentely LOL Personally I just wish I had some tuning experience. I'm having a nightmare with my truck. Hopefully someone will show up in Biloxi next weekend and be able to help me out.

yeah.....I'm honest with no BS to a fault....either on the forums or in person...no sugar coating etc......

tuning is an art form.... my advice is to go to some major comps and listen to as many cars as you can...take mental notes of what you like or dislike and ask questions.... bottom line is that you need a level of comparison to strive for...and until you truly hear the best of the best....then in all rights you may think your system is all that....

 

[xtremekustomz 10+ year member]

yeah.....I'm honest with no BS to a fault....either on the forums or in person...no sugar coating etc......
tuning is an art form.... my advice is to go to some major comps and listen to as many cars as you can...take mental notes of what you like or dislike and ask questions.... bottom line is that you need a level of comparison to strive for...and until you truly hear the best of the best....then in all rights you may think your system is all that....

I've been to a few big shows but never had a chance to really listen to anything because of judging the car show part and all that. LOL I know my system isn't all that. I'm just doing the best that I can with what little knowledge I have. I probably won't be able to make it to alot of shows this year, or for next year for that matter. I'm finishing up my electronics degree right now so that is taking up alot of my spare time. I think there are supposed to be a few here in Alabama for MECA so I might just ride up to a few of those and see if I can find some help there. I had talked to Andy J. a while back and he said he would help me all that he could.

 

[Hebrew Hammer 10+ year member]

I've been to a few big shows but never had a chance to really listen to anything because of judging the car show part and all that. LOL I know my system isn't all that. I'm just doing the best that I can with what little knowledge I have. I probably won't be able to make it to alot of shows this year, or for next year for that matter. I'm finishing up my electronics degree right now so that is taking up alot of my spare time. I think there are supposed to be a few here in Alabama for MECA so I might just ride up to a few of those and see if I can find some help there. I had talked to Andy J. a while back and he said he would help me all that he could.

that whole all that was by no means directed towards you...just a general statement....

dude...you have kirk profit my teammate and david hogan in your back yard..I'll see if he has some free time...his car is insane.......

 

[xtremekustomz 10+ year member]

That would be MUCH appreciated //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Actually Steve H. was supposed to tune it for me at a show in Panama City back in March but I didn't get through with my truck.

 

[pcoastsurf 10+ year member]

So your hearing is the same as everybody?? In your opinion maybe they ****, but thats your opinion. As far as the car show thing coming from where you live ,I guess that is about all you have to do besides making out with your sister.

If you have to look at previous post to get firing power , then you my friend are still a idiot.

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

yeah.....I'm honest with no BS to a fault....either on the forums or in person...no sugar coating etc......

It cracks me up when people say such things in such a manner that it gives you the impression they think they are Clint Eastwood -- or at least Wilford Brimley. Don't know Mr. Brimley is? Check it out here:



I think that it is painfully obvious that, while HH has had extensive experience with sound systems that the vast majority of us will never be the least bit interested in buying, he has very little or nothing to add concerning audio equipment that we might actually use some day.

He offers no alternatives, so I can only take it that he thinks that anything we might use will ****. I would rather have the opinions of people who use the equipment in the same priceline that I will be looking at and can offer an opinion that is not so blatantly biased.

BTW, that does not mean that the hobbyist does not want to spend a shitload is necessarily flat broke. HH just happens to be in the audio business (and thus he has a business purpose for having extravegantly expensive equipment) and I am sure he gets most of his personal equipment at or below cost. If that makes him feel special then great.

 

[Hebrew Hammer 10+ year member]

So your hearing is the same as everybody?? In your opinion maybe they ****, but thats your opinion. As far as the car show thing coming from where you live ,I guess that is about all you have to do besides making out with your sister.
If you have to look at previous post to get firing power , then you my friend are still a idiot.

no I just like to know if you are....

A: a typical mindless troll that posts to feel like he/she belongs....

or...

B: actually adds something of merrit through years of experience etc.....

 

[Hebrew Hammer 10+ year member]

It cracks me up when people say such things in such a manner that it gives you the impression they think they are Clint Eastwood -- or at least Wilford Brimley. Don't know Mr. Brimley is? Check it out here:

no...it's like this......I'd much rather see you guys do with out...save money....and buy something solid...instead of buying 150-250 dollar comp sets and changing every year to year and a half which I see so many posters here do.....hell when I was 16 I saved for almost 2 years to get exactly what I wanted......not many people my age at the time had Quarts flagship 2way...Eclipse ECD 410.... 3 JL 8w6 and 2 Phoenix Gold MS2250 and MS275........the best advice I can give anybody is save..do without.....don't give into fads or boners.....buy a solid comp set and spend a good amount of time on the install.......

 

[Babs 10+ year member]

the best advice I can give anybody is save..do without.....don't give into fads or boners.....buy a solid comp set and spend a good amount of time on the install.......

... sounds sound as a pound to me.

It's always nice to have the last watch I shall ever buy.. I like that principle..

If you want a 'whatever', get one.. but step up to search for the finest, instead of chunking less-than items then struggling for replacements. Probably why I'm such a 9255 fanguy. I just figure if you buy something, you should only have to buy it once.. Which is the thing that disgusts me about car audio.. it's designed, literally engineered to break eventually.. kinda like chryslers.

 

[xtremekustomz 10+ year member]

I agree somewhat with HH on the buying and replacing every year. Honestly I've done it myself. I guess the main thing you have to think about it not everyone wants the "best" and will never save up money to buy the best. That is just a fact of life. Another thing is that alot of people on here say they want sq, but really don't know what sq is at all. Some people consider sq as something that plays extremely loud and has alot of "treble" when it is something completely different from that. If you guys really want to get into some sq info go over to elitecaraudio.com That is where alot of the hard core sq guys chat. As for the original question about CDT's, I'ver personally never listened to them and I'm sorry I can't help out. Personally I'm a Dynaudio fan and "I" think (with what sets I have listed to) that their dome midrange has the most detail out of anything I have heard. The only setback is that playing them below 600 hz isn't good for them so you kinda lose the "point source" midrange driver. I've got a set sitting here now.....I sure wish I could have used them //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[DejaWiz 5,000+ posts]

I guess the main thing you have to think about it not everyone wants the "best" and will never save up money to buy the best. That is just a fact of life.

Another thing is that alot of people on here say they want sq, but really don't know what sq is at all. Some people consider sq as something that plays extremely loud and has alot of "treble" when it is something completely different from that.

Agreed 100%

 

[MiniVanMan 10+ year member]

How about this...you'll never see a car win a finals either MECA or IASCA using cdt....

I have to say that I'm not a big fan of a lot of judges out there. What they're looking for, and what I like are very often two very different things. I don't change my preferences for anything due to somebody else's opinion on what something should be. If I like my tweeters a little more laid back, but I won't win a comp because of it, well then, screw the competition. If I like more red in my video, then screw what the salesperson says it should look like.

So, I don't like that argument. It also tells me that a lot of judges are brand loyal, and let's face it, they are. If the judge feels Utopias are the greatest sounding speakers ever, and you show up with a set of DLS Iridiums, which sound completely different, you're going to have a hard time scoring points over the guy in the next lane sporting his shiny set of Focals.

Now on to your point about saving for something of quality as opposed to settling on something cheaper, just to have to buy something again later is a VERY valid point. On this I will agree 110%.

I'm not a CDT fanboi, but they have their place, and to completely rule them out is purely based on preference and nothing else. You can't state anything as fact when it comes to SQ. I can make a set of Pyle components sound decent, and probably great to an untrained ear. So, it is all subjective.

CDT is very laid back, and that doesn't bode well for competitions where screaming highs are the norm. It does bode well for long road trips where you don't want your ears bleeding after 1/2 an hour.

 

[genxx 10+ year member]

no...it's like this......I'd much rather see you guys do with out...save money....and buy something solid...instead of buying 150-250 dollar comp sets and changing every year to year and a half which I see so many posters here do.....hell when I was 16 I saved for almost 2 years to get exactly what I wanted......not many people my age at the time had Quarts flagship 2way...Eclipse ECD 410.... 3 JL 8w6 and 2 Phoenix Gold MS2250 and MS275........the best advice I can give anybody is save..do without.....don't give into fads or boners.....buy a solid comp set and spend a good amount of time on the install.......

HH-I have great respect for you. I have read many of you technical post on other forums and gained some great knowledge. You do have great knowledge and tuning ability. You also have the opportunity to audition a $5,000 set of comps.

However, you do yourself go through high-end equipment much like the normal audio guy go's through $150-$300.00 sets of comps. You just do it at a much higher price point or so it seems. If I could do that I would also.

I am doing a complete CDT set-up to see if they are complete garbage or not. If they are they are gone and its back to Rainbow Profi's. However I do have that option and means to do that. I also have Morel and Seas laying around as options.

You make a good point here but most of the guys would just save up and before they save enough buy that comp set would blow the cash on something else, not everyone but I would say a lot of them. So at least they keep a steady rotation of cash flow for car audio industry.LOL