CD7000 vs. 7998

[skierxx5556 10+ year member]

I am posting this because it seems like there are a bunch of people on here with the CD7000 (I would like there input) and a friend of mine asked me as well.

Well after owning the Eclipse CD7000 and being told that it would sound much better than my first 7998 (which I was having issues with) I have gone back to the 7998. I think that the CD7000 is probably one of the worst decks that I have ever used. The buttons were very touchy (I would go to change a song and would instead be put into the fader and sub options), I dont really like flashy shit so the screen was just annoying with all the planes flying around and shit, the volume knob was huge, there was no designated pause button, the face wouldnt automatically close when a CD was inserted, the remote was very slow to react, you cant turn off the internal amp, and the FM reception absolutely blew monkey balls.

I bought the CD7000 because I was having some issues with my 7998 and because I was told that it would sound much better. Well to be perfectly honest there is really no comparison on SQ between the two decks the 7998 absolutely owns the 7000. The 7000 has a terrible noise floor problem so bad that at times I would get so sick of listening to the hissing noise it would have to turn the deck off. The 7000 took much more EQing to get to sound good as well and the music still had a very unnatural sound to it. It also lost much of its clarity at louder volumes with rock music so much so that it would cause my ears to fatigue.

While some of you may say 24bit DAC vs 1bit DAC and blah blah, I really do believe that when Alpine built the 7998 they used some of the best internals out there and because of that this deck still shines as one of the best. When I installed the 7998 again the first thing I noticed was that the noise was gone (noise meaning noise floor), my subs hit harder and cleaner, my midbass was much punchier and tweets were cleaner and more detailed (the separation that I was missing was back). My sound stage also moved from about eye level and off the steering wheel all the way up to the headliner and out on to the hood. While the 7998 does have a few things that I dont like the good far out weigh the bad.

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[SQBubble 10+ year member]

thats good to know !! wut would u compare the 7998 then? considering new models?

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

Ouch, sounds like you had some problems there. I love my CD7000, haven't had any problems and the screen is not "flashy" if you just set it to a nice background. The 7998 was a very nice unit, I almost bought one back when they were new.

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

you installed it wrong, and are a poopy head.

i have 0 floor noise. (probably due because i know how to set my system up up)

i have not even used the peq. and my systems sounds amazing, -> still going to tinker with it though. (running active)

there is a mute and/or pause button... its pretty easy to see on the face. it says "mute"

there is a easy setting, by hitting mode and you can change songs by turning the knob.

it did take me a little to work it, but i dont have chubby fingers, so i can adjust it easy.

and my fm works fine, also having a german spike inplace of my antenna.

you are right the remote is kinda slow, but i hardly use it.

fyi you can change the screen to many different things, you just have to do a little research on the eclipse site.

and the knob is not that big seesh,

dont knock it if you are unable to install it, and properly get to know how to run it.

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

you installed it wrong, and are a poopy head.

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[joek86 10+ year member]

There is a pause, it is not labeled, but is preset #3 when in the CD mode. There is also a mute which is labeled as such.

Joe

 

[frzninvt 10+ year member]

Eclipse (Fujitsu Ten) has never made a quality reliable product. The CD-7000 is all show and no go. Check your specs on that thing and see what the S/N and Channel Seperation numbers are that should clue you in.

The Alpine 7998 is twice the deck, it has it where it counts in the output stage.

I have been around car audio long enough and spoken to enough people and seen enough threads on this forum to confirm my statements. However, they are my opinion to which I am entitled to.

I agree with the original poster's comments and not just because I happen to own a 7998.

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[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

you installed it wrong, and are a poopy head.
i have 0 floor noise. (probably due because i know how to set my system up up)

i have not even used the peq. and my systems sounds amazing, -> still going to tinker with it though. (running active)

there is a mute and/or pause button... its pretty easy to see on the face. it says "mute"

there is a easy setting, by hitting mode and you can change songs by turning the knob.

it did take me a little to work it, but i dont have chubby fingers, so i can adjust it easy.

and my fm works fine, also having a german spike inplace of my antenna.

you are right the remote is kinda slow, but i hardly use it.

fyi you can change the screen to many different things, you just have to do a little research on the eclipse site.

and the knob is not that big seesh,

dont knock it if you are unable to install it, and properly get to know how to run it.

Amen brotha

 

[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

I would also LOVE to know how just simply changing a source manipulates the staging??

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

Eclipse (Fujitsu Ten) has never made a quality reliable product. The CD-7000 is all show and no go. Check your specs on that thing and see what the S/N and Channel Seperation numbers are that should clue you in.
The Alpine 7998 is twice the deck, it has it where it counts in the output stage.

I have been around car audio long enough and spoken to enough people and seen enough threads on this forum to confirm my statements. However, they are my opinion to which I am entitled to.

I agree with the original poster's comments and not just because I happen to own a 7998.

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i disagree with your fujitsu comment, due to all the factory radio's iv seen work after years of abuse in japaneese cars. etc.

now i have been to alpine workshops, and know about the internals, they have steped it up and the board design, etc. but i would not consider it twice the deck of an eclipse.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

doing a direct swap out you are bound to have to reset your gains a tad bit plus set it up eq/xover. i almost traded my c90 combo for the 5000 series and cash but couldnt stand the 5000. (i know its apples and oranges but) when you do switch at least try to set it up like you would from a "new" perspective. when everything is right the eclipse will not be noisey and getting used to the controls is up to the owner not eclipse to try and make their deck alpine-ish ....and output via the rca is a highly highly over rated issue

 

[djman37 5,000+ posts]

Eclipse (Fujitsu Ten) has never made a quality reliable product. The CD-7000 is all show and no go. Check your specs on that thing and see what the S/N and Channel Seperation numbers are that should clue you in.
The Alpine 7998 is twice the deck, it has it where it counts in the output stage.

I have been around car audio long enough and spoken to enough people and seen enough threads on this forum to confirm my statements. However, they are my opinion to which I am entitled to.

I agree with the original poster's comments and not just because I happen to own a 7998.

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ha, ha. Statements containing always and never can usually be discounted as FALSE. I can't speak for the 7000, but my 8053 si a good quality reliable deck. I'd like to get my hands on a 7998 too.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/yumyum.gif.0556df42231b304b9c995aefd13928a8.gif

 

[blue 10+ year member]

Yeah ..... The CD 7000 is absolute TRASH. Those who think it has good sound , simply do NOT know what real music sounds like.

And yes .... the 7998 does indeed OWN the Eclipse.

Now , my conscience is clear //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

PS : I've never been flamed before , so please flame me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif :laugh: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

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[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Yeah ..... The CD 7000 is absolute TRASH. Those who think it has good sound , simply do NOT know what real music sounds like. And yes .... the 7998 does indeed OWN the Eclipse.

Now , my conscience is clear //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

PS : I've never been flamed before , so please flame me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif :laugh: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

But I'll still be correct ....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

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[6spdcoupe 5,000+ posts]

Yeah ..... The CD 7000 is absolute TRASH. Those who think it has good sound , simply do NOT know what real music sounds like. And yes .... the 7998 does indeed OWN the Eclipse.

Now , my conscience is clear //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

PS : I've never been flamed before , so please flame me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif :laugh: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

But I'll still be correct ....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Maybe thats just due to Your wiring.