Cali folks tax $ may pay for womans 14 kids

[DDSC 10+ year member]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090212/ap_on_re_us/octuplets_14

LOS ANGELES – A big share of the financial burden of raising Nadya Suleman's 14 children could fall on the shoulders of California's taxpayers, compounding the public furor in a state already billions of dollars in the red.

Even before the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother gave birth to octuplets last month, she had been caring for her six other children with the help of $490 a month in food stamps, plus Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters. The public aid will almost certainly be increased with the new additions to her family.

Also, the hospital where the octuplets are expected to spend seven to 12 weeks has requested reimbursement from Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program, for care of the premature babies, according to the Los Angeles Times. The cost has not been disclosed.

Word of the public assistance has stoked the furor over Suleman's decision to have so many children by having embryos implanted in her womb.

"It appears that, in the case of the Suleman family, raising 14 children takes not simply a village but the combined resources of the county, state and federal governments," Los Angeles Times columnist Tim Rutten wrote in Wednesday's paper. He called Suleman's story "grotesque."

On the Internet, bloggers rained insults on Suleman, calling her an "idiot," criticizing her decision to have more children when she couldn't afford the ones she had and suggesting she be sterilized.

"It's my opinion that a woman's right to reproduce should be limited to a number which the parents can pay for," Charles Murray wrote in a letter to the Los Angeles Daily News. "Why should my wife and I, as taxpayers, pay child support for 14 Suleman kids?"

She was also berated on talk radio, where listeners accused her of manipulating the system and being an irresponsible mother.

"From the outside you can tell that this woman was playing the system," host Bryan Suits said on the "Kennedy and Suits" show on KFI-AM. "You're **** right the state should step in and seize the kids and adopt them out."

Suleman's spokesman, Mike Furtney, urged understanding.

"I would just ask people to consider her situation and she has been under a tremendous amount of pressure that no one could be prepared for," Furtney said.

Furtney said he, Suleman and her family had received death threats and had been getting messages that were "disgusting things that would never be proper to put in any story."

In her only media interviews, Suleman told NBC's "Today" she doesn't consider the public assistance she receives to be welfare and doesn't intend to remain on it for long.

Also, a Nadya Suleman Family Web Site has been set up to collect donations for the children. It features pictures of the mother and each octuplet and has instructions for making donations by check or credit card.

Suleman, whose six older children range in age from 2 to 7, said three of them receive disability payments. She told NBC one is autistic, another has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, known as ADHD, and a third experienced a mild speech delay with "tiny characteristics of autism." She refused to say how much they get in payments.

In California, a low-income family can receive Social Security payments of up to $793 a month for each disabled child. Three children would amount to $2,379.

The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby's hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Eight times that equals $1.3 million.

For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is struggling to close a $42 billion budget gap by cutting services, declined through a spokesman to comment on the taxpayer costs associated with the octuplets' delivery and care.

State Sen. Sam Aanestad, R-Grass Valley, an oral surgeon who sits on the Health Committee, said that once a state Medical Board investigation is complete, lawmakers could review issues from government oversight to standards in fertility treatment.

Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year.

Some of the disability money was spent on in vitro fertilizations, which was used for all 14 of her children, Suleman said. She said she also worked double shifts at the mental hospital and saved up for the treatments. She estimated that all her treatments cost $100,000.

Fourteen states, including California, require insurance companies to offer or provide coverage for infertility treatment, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. But California has a law specifically excluding in vitro coverage. It's not clear what type of coverage Suleman has.

In the NBC interview, Suleman said she will go back to California State University, Fullerton in the fall to complete her master's degree in counseling, and will use student loans to support her children. She already owes $50,000 in student loans, she told NBC. She said she will rely on the school's daycare center and volunteers.

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I think this is a total load of bullshit, you get 3 kids invitroed and they come out disabled, so you go get 8 more and expect people to help u out or feel sorry for u for what???

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[eharri3 10+ year member]

Even more obscene to me is that she will undoubtedly derrive some sort of profit or financial winfall from her newfound fame that she gained just by being a welfare queen.

 

[DUMPED 10+ year member]

only in AMERICA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cha cha cha !!!

 

[DDSC 10+ year member]

Even more obscene to me is that she will undoubtedly derrive some sort of profit or financial winfall from her newfound fame that she gained just by being a welfare queen.

^^Truf:greedy:bit.ch

 

[Banana Balls 5,000+ posts]

And this is news?

The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed,

BTW, I know how much her hospital bill was and their estimate is way WAY off. Kaiser got owned on that one hard. And she wasn't even a Kaiser patient. That means everyone else that actually has Kaiser insurance is gonna get fawked when rate renewal time comes around.

 

[DDSC 10+ year member]

Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year.

it seems to me that after her medical ran out she had gotten acustm to sittin on her *** while getting paid good from Social security plus the medical, take the medical away and she figured this was a easy way to continue to do so

 

[05fronty 5,000+ posts]

http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com/

 

[PollyCranopolis 10+ year member]

I'd hit it

 

[Loud3 10+ year member]

This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone...

People have been working the system, so to speak, for years.

There will always be those looking for free money and extra hand-outs.

 

[PollyCranopolis 10+ year member]

I'd hit it

 

[DDSC 10+ year member]

And this is news?
BTW, I know how much her hospital bill was and their estimate is way WAY off. Kaiser got owned on that one hard. And she wasn't even a Kaiser patient. That means everyone else that actually has Kaiser insurance is gonna get fawked when rate renewal time comes around.

oh saw it last nite and was lmao at your avi

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

this is so sexist.

Why cant i be a welfare king?

 

[DDSC 10+ year member]

This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone...
People have been working the system, so to speak, for years.

There will always be those looking for free money and extra hand-outs.

I wouldnt say much if it was like she had a few kids and got preg with octuplets, shit happens.

But when you get invitroed 14 times 8 of which are after 3 kids with disabilities, thats on purpose and planed, so plan to ALREADY have the resources BEFORE you get vitroed

 

[DDSC 10+ year member]

this is so sexist.
Why cant i be a welfare king?

thats another thing ****it, dont get me started on that one:verymad://content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/furious.gif.fc81ca146dbff91fede3ed290dbc4f4c.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/mad.gif.c18f003ab0ef8a0d9c27ca78d77a6392.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/redface.gif.62fdbfe1a101588a808c4cff71bcb942.gif

 

[Banana Balls 5,000+ posts]

this is so sexist.
Why cant i be a welfare king?

If you can pop out 14 babies, I will dub you the welfare king.