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<blockquote data-quote="mrray13" data-source="post: 1101539" data-attributes="member: 540942">and again, i&#039;ll agree to that...BUT, his results might very well be different then someone elses. if the type r is the only sub to get, then ALL competitors in ALL organizations would run them.they are working great in his application, sweet. he&#039;s knocking down good scores with them compared to other subs, even better. but to preach that they are the only sub to have, and to do it here where bandwagoning is beyond rampant, isn&#039;t the truth. like i mentioned above, way too many varibles for that one simple fact to be true. there is no end all subwoofer.btw, our local alpine dealer has the 05&#039;s ON SALE for $200 a piece for 12&#039;s.&nbsp; he said the msrp is more around $300. so unless u can find an online authorized dealer, they really aren&#039;t what i&#039;d consider budget subs. true, u can get them cheaper online. and i guess that&#039;s where the advantage comes in...lol..u can buy two for the price of one and have a spare when the n0obs around here think they can throw 2kwrms at them daily and they start popping like ballons. in spkrman&#039;s case, he&#039;s got enough knowledge to do that, but the n0obs clinging to his every last word more then likely do not.wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/peace.gif.2db28b618ed8d1964ebbe2f5021d2c39.gif</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mrray13, post: 1101539, member: 540942"] and again, i'll agree to that...BUT, his results might very well be different then someone elses. if the type r is the only sub to get, then ALL competitors in ALL organizations would run them. they are working great in his application, sweet. he's knocking down good scores with them compared to other subs, even better. but to preach that they are the only sub to have, and to do it here where bandwagoning is beyond rampant, isn't the truth. like i mentioned above, way too many varibles for that one simple fact to be true. there is no end all subwoofer. btw, our local alpine dealer has the 05's ON SALE for $200 a piece for 12's. he said the msrp is more around $300. so unless u can find an online authorized dealer, they really aren't what i'd consider budget subs. true, u can get them cheaper online. and i guess that's where the advantage comes in...lol..u can buy two for the price of one and have a spare when the n0obs around here think they can throw 2kwrms at them daily and they start popping like ballons. in spkrman's case, he's got enough knowledge to do that, but the n0obs clinging to his every last word more then likely do not. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/peace.gif.2db28b618ed8d1964ebbe2f5021d2c39.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

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