Best amp for SA-15 (upgrading from zx1000.1)

[Jakerrr 10+ year member]

Long question but this'll save y'all some time asking me stuff I didn't specify. Trying to give as much info as possible. I'm looking for power at 2 ohms.

Current gear:

kenwood x998

08zx1000.1

stock electrical besides big 3 (stock alternator is 110 amp). I may add second batt soon if advised

Factory infinity speakers/tweets/amp (Lancer Ralliart factory upgraded sound package)

ppi900.4 phantom on the way, along with undecided speakers

Flexible budget, around 200-400$

I'm looking to buy a new amp for my SA-15. My amp doesn't audibly distort super terribly but it is enough to heat the voice coil up pretty bad when it's at wide open volume for a bit. I will smell hot voice coil but only after a pretty long time at max or near max. The gain is definitely set correctly. It has to be the amp. I looked up the specs for it and compared it to some others...the S/N ratio is the lowest I've ever seen. Think it was like 60 db. (lots of amps have this spec in the 90's) And thd of 1 percent. (NOT "

My sub also hits a fraction of a second late. Very little delay really but it is noticeable. It is for these reasons that I'm upgrading my amp now. I will possibly be upgrading the sub(s) later on but I'm not entirely sure, so don't base recommendations on that alone. If I upgrade the sub I'll be upgrading alt/batts, too. But, that would be months from now.

I've heard the sa-15 maxes out on 1500 watts. I'm not sure if that's nominal rms wattage or clamped power... I'm assuming clamped. So, what amp would be a nice upgrade from my current one? I know this thing can take a lot more power. It's loud as crap but the cone isn't traveling anywhere close to its ~40mm xmax.

Because of all the glowing positive reviews on the ppi900.4, I decided to look into Precision Power. Their top model, BA7000.1D, actually provides less power than the cheaper ba5000.1d at 2 ohms. (Because the 7000 can apparently be wired to .5 ohm nominal, 3500wrms). The 5000 does 1700w rms at 2 ohms. Found it on sonicelectronics for a great price, $183.99:

Precision Power PPI BA5000.1D 5000W Black Ice Mono Class D Amplifier

Also, I'm considering this. Copious headroom with 3000wrms 2 ohm 12.6v:

Taramp's HD-3000 2 ohm High Power Car Audio Amps from Brazil at DJ Stage Gear

And this:

Audiopipe APCL-30001D (apcl30001d) 3000W Consumer Line Series

(3000w at 2ohm, $344.99)

Also heard good things about American Bass, would that be a better option than the above?

One more thing, I promise lol... Would most amps / all these be able to connect to the remote gain bass knob I already have installed in my car? That is a must because it's installed next to the left of my HU in a drilled hole and I would really like/need to keep it.

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[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

Long question but this'll save y'all some time asking me stuff I didn't specify. Trying to give as much info as possible. I'm looking for power at 2 ohms.
Current gear:

kenwood x998

08zx1000.1

stock electrical besides big 3 (stock alternator is 110 amp). I may add second batt soon if advised

Factory infinity speakers/tweets/amp (Lancer Ralliart factory upgraded sound package)

ppi900.4 phantom on the way, along with undecided speakers

Flexible budget, around 200-400$

I'm looking to buy a new amp for my SA-15. My amp doesn't audibly distort super terribly but it is enough to heat the voice coil up pretty bad when it's at wide open volume for a bit. I will smell hot voice coil but only after a pretty long time at max or near max. The gain is definitely set correctly. It has to be the amp. I looked up the specs for it and compared it to some others...the S/N ratio is the lowest I've ever seen. Think it was like 60 db. (lots of amps have this spec in the 90's) And thd of 1 percent. (NOT "

My sub also hits a fraction of a second late. Very little delay really but it is noticeable. It is for these reasons that I'm upgrading my amp now. I will possibly be upgrading the sub(s) later on but I'm not entirely sure, so don't base recommendations on that alone. If I upgrade the sub I'll be upgrading alt/batts, too. But, that would be months from now.

I've heard the sa-15 maxes out on 1500 watts. I'm not sure if that's nominal rms wattage or clamped power... I'm assuming clamped. So, what amp would be a nice upgrade from my current one? I know this thing can take a lot more power. It's loud as crap but the cone isn't traveling anywhere close to its ~40mm xmax.

Because of all the glowing positive reviews on the ppi900.4, I decided to look into Precision Power. Their top model, BA7000.1D, actually provides less power than the cheaper ba5000.1d at 2 ohms. (Because the 7000 can apparently be wired to .5 ohm nominal, 3500wrms). The 5000 does 1700w rms at 2 ohms. Found it on sonicelectronics for a great price, $183.99:

Precision Power PPI BA5000.1D 5000W Black Ice Mono Class D Amplifier

Also, I'm considering this. Copious headroom with 3000wrms 2 ohm 12.6v:

Taramp's HD-3000 2 ohm High Power Car Audio Amps from Brazil at DJ Stage Gear

And this:

Audiopipe APCL-30001D (apcl30001d) 3000W Consumer Line Series

(3000w at 2ohm, $344.99)

Also heard good things about American Bass, would that be a better option than the above?

One more thing, I promise lol... Would most amps / all these be able to connect to the remote gain bass knob I already have installed in my car? That is a must because it's installed next to the left of my HU in a drilled hole and I would really like/need to keep it.

Learn to use the time alignment feature on your head unit for sub delay. The sub wont ever reach Xmax unless you are bottoming it out with 28hz and under music material. A trunk is a trunk, thats the way it is man, thats gonna limit output unless you find away to overcome it AKA sealing off trunk, or doing a 4th order blow through to the rear deck along with metal cutting. Basically what i had to do with my corolla to really get loud. you most likely wont gain too much by upping the power like that, headroom is nice but if you max out the amp most of the times, then the sub can die pretty fast.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

This is $415 shipped which is 15 bucks above your budget limit but i'd hop on this asap

Skar sk3500 - Car Audio Classifieds

 

[Jakerrr 10+ year member]

This is $415 shipped which is 15 bucks above your budget limit but i'd hop on this asap
Skar sk3500 - Car Audio Classifieds

Thanks for that man I'll definitely consider that. I'm kinda leaning towards taramps though. Supposedly Brazilian amps aren't quite as bulletproof as Korean, though. But they're really efficient and I need that with my stock alternator.

How does this amp look?:

Taramp's HD-1600 1 ohm High Power Car Audio Amps from Brazil at DJ Stage Gear

1600w rms at 2ohm 12.6v

incredible s/n, damping factor, and thd

Musical Maximum Consumption @ 12,6VDC: 99 Amp.

What's the catch??

edit: don't know why that link says 1 ohm. It's the 2ohm version

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

[quote name='Jakerrr']Thanks for that man I'll definitely consider that. I'm kinda leaning towards taramps though. Supposedly Brazilian amps aren't quite as bulletproof as Korean, though. But they're really efficient and I need that with my stock alternator.

How does this amp look?:
Taramp's HD-1600 1 ohm High Power Car Audio Amps from Brazil at DJ Stage Gear
1600w rms at 2ohm 12.6v
incredible s/n, damping factor, and thd
Musical Maximum Consumption @ 12,6VDC: 99 Amp.

What's the catch??

edit: don't know why that link says 1 ohm. It's the 2ohm version[/QUOTE]

if you want to go with taramps, hit up @Popwarhomie, he can get you better dealer pricing then djstagegear. btw its probably a typo. I'd still get the skar 3500.1 for the money its pretty sweet, you'll get your money's worth if you ever want to resell again in the future. Brazilians dont really get to their best price to performance ratio until you get past the 4k mark. I woudnt spend 400 dollars for a 1.6k amp man.

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

Thanks. Been talking with him about an HD3K.

 

[Dmac1991]

SA-15. 40mm xmax?

 

[Jakerrr 10+ year member]

SA-15. 40mm xmax?

19mm xmax. ~40mm usable throw

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

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