Just curious Jacob if the b-stock woofers are sold to vendors as b-stock or if that is something they determine themselves? Only reason I ask is because a few months back I bought some E8 v.2s from woofersetc.com. When I received them they were not what I consider to be a-stock gear. More than a reasonable amount of excess glue was present on and around the surrounds. I called wooferserc and told them I thought that there was a mixup and I had received b-stock gear. They then proceeded to tell me that Sundown doesn't sell b-stock and that the excess glue was normal for the Sundown gear which I felt was total bulls**t. At that point I was told if I wanted I could return/exchange them but only on my own dime . At that point although dissatisfied with the appearance of the subs I elected to keep them as woofersetc was unwilling to do anything that didnt take money out of my pocket. They performed flawlessly but didnt look to me like they should have been sold as a-stock/new gear cosmetically. I guess I am really just wondering if woofersetc gave menthe run around on subs they may have bought as b-stock and sold as a-stock