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<blockquote data-quote="audioholic" data-source="post: 2440723" data-attributes="member: 549629">Weird, I thought the point of what you posted was: &quot;electricity has nothing to do with physically moving the mass...&quot;. I mean, it IS what you said. Anyway, I find it odd you would make a statement like this, so blatantly false, and yet act as if its all part of your master plan or something. For future reference, saying electricity has nothing to do with moving a speaker&#039;s mass.... is 100% incorrect. Not sure if this is you admitting that, or just trying to divert our attention away to something else you were saying also, but either way... yeah.Reality check time. First off, its not like saying a 1300 pound car will be faster, its like saying &quot;Not true. The -3 dB frequency (F3) of an enclosure is proportional to Fs. Fs of a speaker is proportional to its cone size. 8&#039;s just wont have the same low end as a comparable larger sub.&quot; which is 100% true.Second reality check. This is what you said: &quot;woofer size has nothing to do with how low it gets...&quot;. Now, you still insist on pushing this flawed logic at us by saying: &quot;woofer size has nothing to do with how low it gets...&quot;. Uhm, sorry, but you are simply wrong.Oh sure, you can (now) try to confuse the situation we are discussing by bring up enclosure sizes/alignments, comparing different sub models/brands, etc etc. But the reality is, you are trying to say woofer size has NOTHING to do with how low it gets, and that&#039;s simply false. I have to admit Im confused while you are still holding onto this arguement, even after seemingly looking up what Fs is.Keep trying, maybe you will convince someone who doesn&#039;t know any better, with your car parallels and your attempts to muddy the issue. But the fact is, cone size definitely plays a role in its low end extension/output.Im also curious who you think said that. I presume you were directing it at me, as Im the only one here not praising the ground 8&quot; subs walk on. If that IS directed at me, I would suggest you re-read my post(s), I never said anything of the sort.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="audioholic, post: 2440723, member: 549629"] Weird, I thought the point of what you posted was: "electricity has nothing to do with physically moving the mass...". I mean, it IS what you said. Anyway, I find it odd you would make a statement like this, so blatantly false, and yet act as if its all part of your master plan or something. For future reference, saying electricity has nothing to do with moving a speaker's mass.... is 100% incorrect. Not sure if this is you admitting that, or just trying to divert our attention away to something else you were saying also, but either way... yeah. Reality check time. First off, its not like saying a 1300 pound car will be faster, its like saying "Not true. The -3 dB frequency (F3) of an enclosure is proportional to Fs. Fs of a speaker is proportional to its cone size. 8's just wont have the same low end as a comparable larger sub." which is 100% true. Second reality check. This is what you said: "woofer size has nothing to do with how low it gets...". Now, you still insist on pushing this flawed logic at us by saying: "woofer size has nothing to do with how low it gets...". Uhm, sorry, but you are simply wrong. Oh sure, you can (now) try to confuse the situation we are discussing by bring up enclosure sizes/alignments, comparing different sub models/brands, etc etc. But the reality is, you are trying to say woofer size has NOTHING to do with how low it gets, and that's simply false. I have to admit Im confused while you are still holding onto this arguement, even after seemingly looking up what Fs is. Keep trying, maybe you will convince someone who doesn't know any better, with your car parallels and your attempts to muddy the issue. But the fact is, cone size definitely plays a role in its low end extension/output. Im also curious who you think said that. I presume you were directing it at me, as Im the only one here not praising the ground 8" subs walk on. If that IS directed at me, I would suggest you re-read my post(s), I never said anything of the sort. [/QUOTE]

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