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<blockquote data-quote="mat3833" data-source="post: 8785901" data-attributes="member: 587645"><p>OK, there seems to be some kind of communication or understanding issue here.</p><p></p><p>It IS simple math. Product cost, product used, resonance level reduction, all of these are numbers you can use to quantify this. As I said, I was going FULL COVERAGE. Regardless of what product I used, full coverage was happening. I filled voids with expanding foam, covered large holes with flashing, covered as much of my car as I could in deadener and CCF. I had to use a minimum of X ammount of product to cover the car. X ammount of product A would cost 4 times what X ammount of product B costs. In my case, I would have spent 1200 on Resonix because I was, once again for clarity, covering every square inch I could.</p><p></p><p>Yea, Resonix, second skin, etc are great products</p><p>They do their job very well when using 15-25 percent coverage in the center of panels. But their cost is not justified in all cases. I am not arguing that Resonix is the "best" deadener on the market based on a few very simple tests.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's really not fair to compare the WGTI series of subs to an HDC3. The W series is extremely efficient for what it is, as was the GTO amps they were paired with. I ran 2 of the W15 GTI and just sold the one I kept.</p><p></p><p>You can't really compare deadener to a speaker tho. Deadener is a very simple thing. It's just mass and a little vibration reduction. Speakers are complex. If we are comparing the CLD tiles from Resonix to noico, you could accomplish a good portion of the "dampening" by gluing lead weights to the center of your panel. </p><p></p><p>Dollar for dollar, I would put money that noico would perform on par with Resonix if not beat it. Resonix ON SALE costs 4x what noico costs. Get one square inch of Resonix and 4 square inches of Noico. stack 4 squares of Noico on the center of the panel and measure. Or use 4 times less Resonix. I'm perfectly happy being wrong in this particular case. As Ive said numerous times Resonix and second skin are great products, if it beats noico on a dollar for dollar level it will change my plan for my Sorento build. Everyone who has done testing has stuck with the "equal square inch coverage" method to compare their results. And while that does tell you what is a better product overall, a true companion would include a cost weight section as well. </p><p></p><p>Matt</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mat3833, post: 8785901, member: 587645"] OK, there seems to be some kind of communication or understanding issue here. It IS simple math. Product cost, product used, resonance level reduction, all of these are numbers you can use to quantify this. As I said, I was going FULL COVERAGE. Regardless of what product I used, full coverage was happening. I filled voids with expanding foam, covered large holes with flashing, covered as much of my car as I could in deadener and CCF. I had to use a minimum of X ammount of product to cover the car. X ammount of product A would cost 4 times what X ammount of product B costs. In my case, I would have spent 1200 on Resonix because I was, once again for clarity, covering every square inch I could. Yea, Resonix, second skin, etc are great products They do their job very well when using 15-25 percent coverage in the center of panels. But their cost is not justified in all cases. I am not arguing that Resonix is the "best" deadener on the market based on a few very simple tests. It's really not fair to compare the WGTI series of subs to an HDC3. The W series is extremely efficient for what it is, as was the GTO amps they were paired with. I ran 2 of the W15 GTI and just sold the one I kept. You can't really compare deadener to a speaker tho. Deadener is a very simple thing. It's just mass and a little vibration reduction. Speakers are complex. If we are comparing the CLD tiles from Resonix to noico, you could accomplish a good portion of the "dampening" by gluing lead weights to the center of your panel. Dollar for dollar, I would put money that noico would perform on par with Resonix if not beat it. Resonix ON SALE costs 4x what noico costs. Get one square inch of Resonix and 4 square inches of Noico. stack 4 squares of Noico on the center of the panel and measure. Or use 4 times less Resonix. I'm perfectly happy being wrong in this particular case. As Ive said numerous times Resonix and second skin are great products, if it beats noico on a dollar for dollar level it will change my plan for my Sorento build. Everyone who has done testing has stuck with the "equal square inch coverage" method to compare their results. And while that does tell you what is a better product overall, a true companion would include a cost weight section as well. Matt [/QUOTE]
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