BlurredVision
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Looks good so far. I would invest in good cooling. Like noctua for the cpu and arctic acccelero for the gpu. Ever if you're not OCing, lower temps is never bad. Or you could run cheaper gear and OC the crap outta it
Well. As a person who rocks the 3570k OC'd at 4.5GHz stable, SeaSonic 620watt PSU, and that ASRock Extreme4 motherboard, I think you've created a great computer!
As I mentioned earlier, I HAVE a 3570k on an Extreme4, and I've never had a single issue with hibernation or sleep...
For your purposes, the processor is a tad overkill, but if you're fine with the price, I say go for it. The REAL potential of that processor is when its OC'd. You don't need crazy coolers that BlurriedVision recommended, I am OC'd at 4.5GHz with a $30 Cooler Master Hyper 212+. As for the graphics card, you don't need to bother with extra cooling. The HD7850/70 series are an amazing card for the price. Sapphire is a great company, and the ONLY possible way you could overheat that card is by putting it next to a heater. Those cards overclock like CRAZY. my 7850 stock wasn't able to max out Crysis 3, but with a decent OC, I was able to. Great card
You don't neccessarily overclock your CPU if you don't need to, but it is good to know that you've got 4 cores running each at 4.5Ghz, and that nothing will get in your way. Its a bitchin feeling hahaha
If the case I sport was still in production, I would've recommended it to you, as it has superior cooling for a lower price if you buy it at Walmart. But alas, thats not the case. Don't fret, the 410 is still a great case.
Your builds great. Follow through with it. If you have a microcenter that you can drive to, you can get a MAJOR deal on the 3570k and ASRock Extreme4. I got both of those for $270, vs the $330 (or the $370 when I built my computer) it costs originally. Try to get as many parts from your local Microcenter as possible, as they have the BEST deals than any other retail store OR online. They are better than newegg, tigerdirect, eBay, ANYTHING.
PLUS, IF you do have a issue with that Extreme4, Microcenter has a "returns, no questions asked" policy. Return it if it doesn't work.
In my experience, the Extreme4 was the best motherboard I've ever worked with bar NONE!
Here's my build FYI (and to show it off a lil lol
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As I mentioned earlier, I HAVE a 3570k on an Extreme4, and I've never had a single issue with hibernation or sleep...
For your purposes, the processor is a tad overkill, but if you're fine with the price, I say go for it. The REAL potential of that processor is when its OC'd. You don't need crazy coolers that BlurriedVision recommended, I am OC'd at 4.5GHz with a $30 Cooler Master Hyper 212+. As for the graphics card, you don't need to bother with extra cooling. The HD7850/70 series are an amazing card for the price. Sapphire is a great company, and the ONLY possible way you could overheat that card is by putting it next to a heater. Those cards overclock like CRAZY. my 7850 stock wasn't able to max out Crysis 3, but with a decent OC, I was able to. Great card
You don't neccessarily overclock your CPU if you don't need to, but it is good to know that you've got 4 cores running each at 4.5Ghz, and that nothing will get in your way. Its a bitchin feeling hahaha
If the case I sport was still in production, I would've recommended it to you, as it has superior cooling for a lower price if you buy it at Walmart. But alas, thats not the case. Don't fret, the 410 is still a great case.
Your builds great. Follow through with it. If you have a microcenter that you can drive to, you can get a MAJOR deal on the 3570k and ASRock Extreme4. I got both of those for $270, vs the $330 (or the $370 when I built my computer) it costs originally. Try to get as many parts from your local Microcenter as possible, as they have the BEST deals than any other retail store OR online. They are better than newegg, tigerdirect, eBay, ANYTHING.
PLUS, IF you do have a issue with that Extreme4, Microcenter has a "returns, no questions asked" policy. Return it if it doesn't work.
In my experience, the Extreme4 was the best motherboard I've ever worked with bar NONE!
Here's my build FYI (and to show it off a lil lol
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Err. 2 things; Regarding that RAM, there is absolutely NO point in spending $66 on ram. You can get the EXACT same performance AND save nearly $20 by going to a ram that has the same specs...
-UPDATE- Wow, RAM prices have increased pretty drastically. The same RAM Kit I got for $45 is now $66...looks like you WILL be having to pay that $66.
#2 . Don't be scared to buy your PC case from Walmart. I found that 410 $15 cheaper on Walmart.com
NZXT Phantom 410 Mid Tower Chassis with USB 3.0 Ports, White with Blue Trim: Computers : Walmart.com
OR spend $2 more than what PCPartPicker says, and pick up a Fullsize ATX Phantom, which is essentially the bigger version of your case, warning though, the case is pretty ******* big..
NZXT Phantom Crafted Series ATX Full Tower Steel Chassis - Walmart.com
-UPDATE- Wow, RAM prices have increased pretty drastically. The same RAM Kit I got for $45 is now $66...looks like you WILL be having to pay that $66.
#2 . Don't be scared to buy your PC case from Walmart. I found that 410 $15 cheaper on Walmart.com
NZXT Phantom 410 Mid Tower Chassis with USB 3.0 Ports, White with Blue Trim: Computers : Walmart.com
OR spend $2 more than what PCPartPicker says, and pick up a Fullsize ATX Phantom, which is essentially the bigger version of your case, warning though, the case is pretty ******* big..
NZXT Phantom Crafted Series ATX Full Tower Steel Chassis - Walmart.com
whitedragon551
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I wouldnt touch that Rosewill Wifi card if I was paid to use it. They are junk.
Secondly sleep and hibernate modes are useless. Turn your PC off if you dont want to use it. With the SSD as your OS drive you will have minimal boot times anyways.
Secondly sleep and hibernate modes are useless. Turn your PC off if you dont want to use it. With the SSD as your OS drive you will have minimal boot times anyways.
whitedragon551
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I wouldnt touch that Rosewill Wifi card if I was paid to use it. They are junk.
Secondly sleep and hibernate modes are useless. Turn your PC off if you dont want to use it. With the SSD as your OS drive you will have minimal boot times anyways.
Secondly sleep and hibernate modes are useless. Turn your PC off if you dont want to use it. With the SSD as your OS drive you will have minimal boot times anyways.
why go with an I5 CPU instead of a I7 one?
the reason i ask is because you picked a higher end GPU, but a "ok" CPU. not saying the CPU isnt going to be able to perform everythig you want it to do..
another thing, why just 8 gigs of memory? i would move to atleast 16 gigs.
get rid of the 128 gig SSD.. ya it might boot windows 3 whole secs faster than the TB drive you have, but is that really worth the $125.. and its only 128 gigs...
your paying top dollar for about 5 year old storage capacity thats prices will be dropping soon anyways due to next gen drives coming out.
if this is a media PC, get rid of the DVD drive and get a Blueray burner/drive.. the prices have come down ALOT, and it makes no sense to pay, and use old technology when you are building something new.
not to be a ****, but honestly this is such a generic build... if your budget is $1k, i would say just buy a Dell. you will get better products in the computer, as well as a decent warranty. and still have $$$ left over. im not promoting Dell, just saying that since there is unknowns involved I.e what OS, do you actually have the OS to install? in not thats more $$, and other little things.. it might be easier to just buy a a new comp instead of building one.
i have been doing IT for 15 years now, and have built numerous computers.. but if you have no software, or anything.. it will cost you just as much, if not more to build a computer now adays. add it all up...
ya in the end you have a PC that you built... but your also have to remember all the wierd configs, wiring, and a bunch of other stuff...
the reason i ask is because you picked a higher end GPU, but a "ok" CPU. not saying the CPU isnt going to be able to perform everythig you want it to do..
another thing, why just 8 gigs of memory? i would move to atleast 16 gigs.
get rid of the 128 gig SSD.. ya it might boot windows 3 whole secs faster than the TB drive you have, but is that really worth the $125.. and its only 128 gigs...
your paying top dollar for about 5 year old storage capacity thats prices will be dropping soon anyways due to next gen drives coming out.
if this is a media PC, get rid of the DVD drive and get a Blueray burner/drive.. the prices have come down ALOT, and it makes no sense to pay, and use old technology when you are building something new.
not to be a ****, but honestly this is such a generic build... if your budget is $1k, i would say just buy a Dell. you will get better products in the computer, as well as a decent warranty. and still have $$$ left over. im not promoting Dell, just saying that since there is unknowns involved I.e what OS, do you actually have the OS to install? in not thats more $$, and other little things.. it might be easier to just buy a a new comp instead of building one.
i have been doing IT for 15 years now, and have built numerous computers.. but if you have no software, or anything.. it will cost you just as much, if not more to build a computer now adays. add it all up...
ya in the end you have a PC that you built... but your also have to remember all the wierd configs, wiring, and a bunch of other stuff...
logan963
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Just go with a Mac.... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif
cfox10
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Rock the house.
Wiring a PC is simple, buying parts and piecing together is always going to be better bang for the buck. Buying an unlocked i7 isn't as cost effective as buying an unlocked i5. The cpu can be upgraded down the road anyway.
Find a new case, I have the phantom and the buttons stick, it *****.
Find a new case, I have the phantom and the buttons stick, it *****.
When it comes to building quality high end rigs, at least for me; The words "Intel & Budget" do NOT mix... If there is a set budget you want to be at, and... that budget is around or under 1k?! I'd just build an AMD setup... Just my .02 I'm a big fan of Intel, but if you are on a budget and want the best... It's not for you
I just built a friend of mine an AMD based setup for very reasonable cost - Eight Core 3.6 ghz... The $$$ that was saved on the CPU went straight into Better Vid cards... Gotta pay 2 play & this shyt ain't cheap //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/*******.gif.a649d21efc0d1fd4890a6428166586c1.gif
I just built a friend of mine an AMD based setup for very reasonable cost - Eight Core 3.6 ghz... The $$$ that was saved on the CPU went straight into Better Vid cards... Gotta pay 2 play & this shyt ain't cheap //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/*******.gif.a649d21efc0d1fd4890a6428166586c1.gif
You can build a rig under 1k, this is what i did, but i didnt buy a video card
Intel 520 Series Cherryville SSDSC2CW120A3K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $140- when i bought it
1 x CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 $93
LIAN LI PC-7HX Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $99
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz $219
ASUS Maximus V Gene LGA 1155 Intel Z77 $199
Creative GigaWorks T40 Series II $100
RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W $40
ZALMAN CNPS9900ALED $60
Intel 520 Series Cherryville SSDSC2CW120A3K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $140- when i bought it
1 x CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 $93
LIAN LI PC-7HX Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $99
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz $219
ASUS Maximus V Gene LGA 1155 Intel Z77 $199
Creative GigaWorks T40 Series II $100
RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W $40
ZALMAN CNPS9900ALED $60
Jeffdachef
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Gunz That Turn on Nunz
Dont listen to him, SSD is worth it, anyone thats ever used a good ssd thats up to specs knows for sure its worth it.
mainstream computers use cheap unreliable components(*cough* graphics card/MOTHERBOARDS *cough*, they rarely ever use high end components, they just assemble the cheapest parts they can find and assemble it in the cheapest way, then they can spend the money they saved in production to market their product and pump it out to unknowing consumers. Some are worse than others in this aspect but DELL and HP is the worst offenders by far.
PLUS THE WORST THING IS ALL OF EM ARE WINDOWS 8 NOW. You will have to format your harddrive and reinstall windows 7/IOS/Linux so you can activate it without it getting trouble from the windows 8 bloat ware they pack into it.
With each pc component you buy, there is a manufacturer's warranty included already and if you get one of those rare lemons, the problems normally shows up before the warranty ends.
If you've been building computers for years, you should know what benchmarks is. For his use, everyday usuages dont require I7 because the I7 is both fast in both single threaded and multi-threaded applications. Generally Used for hardcore enthusiast gamers and 3D architectural designs and video rendering.
For the OP's Purpose he only needs single thread power and going from the I5 to the I7 there's severe diminishing returns AS IN Its not worth it if your just going to use the computer like he is going to use it. The benchmarks show only a 300 point difference AnandTech | Bench - CPU and in the real world it translates to: you wont even feel the difference in speed.
What you will feel is the SSD, fast boot ups for every program, fast install, fast load. Doesnt sound like much but it all adds up to a lot of time in your life you dont have to spend looking at a loading screen Which alows you more time to work on your Sound System.
Now back on topic: Your build is good Op but most of the parts listed is a little on the pricey side Try to find the nearest microcenter for the processor, normally they have several bundles with decent motherboards in incremental performance/features/costs but still a lot cheaper than buying both individually. and check up on Newegg's daily shell shocker deals, they normally have decent memory, power supplies and cases on sale.
Also if you dont really care about bronze plus certified for power supplies, RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Power Supply, New Version with Build-in LED Fan On/Off Switch - Newegg.com More power for the same price, i've had mines for several years with a dual gtx 660 ti SLI build and it runs perfectly fine.
Btw higher spec memory only serves to aid overclocking and onboard graphics, you dont have to pour too much money on it unless you want an overclocked beast.
I agree with White Dragon, the Rosewill network adapters are horrible, they have a huge tendency to not work and you usually have to disable and re-enable it again in device manager to have it work again after every sleep/hibernate. As for the motherboard sleep and hibernate problems, i've had it to on my gigabyte motherboard where it wont remain asleep or in hibernate but you can fix it by not allowing your network adapter to wake the pc.
Sorry if i went full nerdtard everyone.
Get a Intel Ultimate N 633ANHMW Mini PCI Express, bad a$$ card...
and yeah window 8 *****(never used it), go with windows 7... i like my windows simple..
and yeah window 8 *****(never used it), go with windows 7... i like my windows simple..
Jeffdachef
5,000+ posts
Gunz That Turn on Nunz
i've used my relatives and friend's laptops that has it, windows 8 is basically just workarounds that leads to more workarounds. Basically a PC degraded to a smart phone with lots of limits on what you can or cannot do unless you figure out a workaround which takes more and more time everytime. While windows 7 has everything right there in your face ready to go. I had to reinstall windows 7 ultimate for 7 people already.
With windows operating system, get every other system. EX: XP - good, Vista - ****, win 7- good, win 8- ****, win9 -??? (has high hopes)
With windows operating system, get every other system. EX: XP - good, Vista - ****, win 7- good, win 8- ****, win9 -??? (has high hopes)
whitedragon551
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Unless he does CAD drawings he wont touch 8Gbs of RAM. RAM is so cheap now does as long as he has room to expand down the road he will be fine starting with 8Gbs. Same goes for an i5. SSD's are definitely worth the speed increase. Their pricing has also dropped dramatically.
Doesnt matter if youve done IT work for 15+ years either. Its irrelevant and holds no water especially when you give bad IT advice.
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