All you rap fans out there...

[jujumantb 10+ year member]

no....rap is one style....hip hop is another. rap=50 cent, the game, snoop dogg, MTV ARTISTS!
hip hop to me is mos def, talib kweli, common, jean grae, john legend, all of black star which i pretty much listed, spoken word is hip hop. none of that mtv bullshit. i think outerspace/immortal technique/MURS and other indi labeled artists are what hip hop is. i know those three are not "indi" but you get the point.

agreed 100%!!!

 

[Brock 5,000+ posts]

lol. to me rap is just what it is, rapping. talking, flowing words, poetry if you want to call it that. when you 'rap' over a beat you make hip hop, at least in most cases. there are many different forms of hip hop just like there are many forms of rock/jazz/classical/yadda yadda. sure radio/mainstream rap/hip hop sucks because it is the same thing over and over, but mainstream anything is like that just the same. you can't disregard a whole genre just because you only heard a few artists on the radio who sucked....and sucked rediculiously I might add.

now, on to hip hop. it is a culture, but most people wouldnt consider it that because they are too washed up in talking shit about 50 cent. (how would you guys like it if i compared every rock band to Creed? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif ) The thing that sucks is that mainstream media has gotten ahold of things that used to be a staple of hip hop culture and turned them into marketing tools for the masses. b-boys/b-girls/graf/turntablism/urban poetry/etc are all products of hip hop, but now are just logos and shit you see in a commercial, at least to most people. standing up for a community or anything is now a slogan kids in Iowa wear on a t-shirt.

 

[packerfan 10+ year member]

no....rap is one style....hip hop is another. rap=50 cent, the game, snoop dogg, MTV ARTISTS!
hip hop to me is mos def, talib kweli, common, jean grae, john legend, all of black star which i pretty much listed, spoken word is hip hop. none of that mtv bullshit. i think outerspace/immortal technique/MURS and other indi labeled artists are what hip hop is. i know those three are not "indi" but you get the point.

Never heard of some of those artists...wonder why, proly because they ****.

 

[cappy72 10+ year member]

rap is a form of music, there is main stream rap (which is radio) and underground(mix tapes, street rhymes, anything that is not allowed on the radio)

R&b is another form of music...

Rock, classical, country etc are all forms of music...

when you hear 50cent and mosdef they are both rapping...

when you hear Dre and Common they are both rapping...

both of these forms(r&b/rap) of music were formed during the HIP HOP culture.

Hip Hop is the music, clothes, attutides, the mental thoughts, the way we present ourselves, the way we live, what type of underware we wear(how many people do you know that listen to rap/r&b and wear tighty whiteys?)

 

[PhatTonyDeMarco 5,000+ posts]

^^^^^dumbest post ever. noone asked who was rapping and why they do what they do. question was is hip hop the same as rap. NO ITS NOT. rap is all the nonsense get crunk kill people bullshit. hip hop is music about struggle....about day to day issues....about SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED

No. The question is not "Is rap different from Hip Hop." The question was referring to the phrase "Rap is THE music, Hip Hop is THE culture." Meaning that the black community feels rap is their music and hip hop is not a form of music, it is a form of their culture and way of life.

Now if the quote had been "Rap IS music, Hip Hop IS culture", then you would have been correct.

Now, unless the original question was posted incorrectly and uncrearly, you are wrong.

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

ya thats wat i belive too. ummm... as stated hip hop is the lifestyle, clothes, slang, b-boy/girl, dj, tagging, and rapping etc.

rap is just a form of music, and that rap has turned into mainstream commercial crap. I like to call immortal tech, canibus. jean grey, brother ali, dead prez and Slug(well not anymore //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif) underground rap.

 

[Brock 5,000+ posts]

both of these forms(r&b/rap) of music were formed during the HIP HOP culture.

wrong

Hip Hop is the music, clothes, attutides, the mental thoughts, the way we present ourselves, the way we live, what type of underware we wear(how many people do you know that listen to rap/r&b and wear tighty whiteys?)

somewhat, however I dont think underwear, or even clothes in general have anything to do with it. thats what the media has tought you.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

rap and hiphop are completely different. rap is the "hard" side like lil jon, 50, game, snoop all that shit while hip hop encompasses underground, nas, 2pac, mobb deep, common and all the easier shit to listen (aka things that actually have lyrics). with that said, i don't listen to "rap" unless its lil jon for a system test.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

rap is a form of music, there is main stream rap (which is radio) and underground(mix tapes, street rhymes, anything that is not allowed on the radio)R&b is another form of music...

Rock, classical, country etc are all forms of music...

when you hear 50cent and mosdef they are both rapping...

when you hear Dre and Common they are both rapping...

both of these forms(r&b/rap) of music were formed during the HIP HOP culture.

Hip Hop is the music, clothes, attutides, the mental thoughts, the way we present ourselves, the way we live, what type of underware we wear(how many people do you know that listen to rap/r&b and wear tighty whiteys?)

how about you never talk about what you don't understand EVER AGAIN?

 

[YungGunna313 10+ year member]

rap and hiphop are completely different. rap is the "hard" side like lil jon, 50, game, snoop all that shit while hip hop encompasses underground, nas, 2pac, mobb deep, common and all the easier shit to listen (aka things that actually have lyrics). with that said, i don't listen to "rap" unless its lil jon for a system test.

how about you never talk about what you don't understand EVER AGAIN?

um yea just fyi nas, 2pac, mobb deep, and common are all mainstream.... u only named some of the most famous artists out there. and try tellin me nas, 2pac and mobb deep arent as "hard" as 50, game, lil jon, etc. cuz they are. all these artist talk about money, women, clubs, thugs, drugs, guns and all the rest, so before u go out n start talkin bout things u dont understand... understand them....

 

[cappy72 10+ year member]

thank you yung...

I dont understand my own culture...

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

um yea just fyi nas, 2pac, mobb deep, and common are all mainstream.... u only named some of the most famous artists out there. and try tellin me nas, 2pac and mobb deep arent as "hard" as 50, game, lil jon, etc. cuz they are. all these artist talk about money, women, clubs, thugs, drugs, guns and all the rest, so before u go out n start talkin bout things u dont understand... understand them....

mainstream has NOTHING to do with it. i consider vinnie paz to be a rapper. you don't see nas goin around "i got 50 knives so they're 50 knives in the club" or wte. listen to the entire god's son cd by nas, then come back with the bolded line.

 

[Jayhawkk 10+ year member]

I would be willing to guess no one knows but a lot of people think they do. Without going into detailk I could agree with rap being the music and hiphop being the culture.

Urbandictionary.com seems to have a definition //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[YungGunna313 10+ year member]

mainstream has NOTHING to do with it. i consider vinnie paz to be a rapper. you don't see nas goin around "i got 50 knives so they're 50 knives in the club" or wte. listen to the entire god's son cd by nas, then come back with the bolded line.

here we go again.... first of all were not talking about vinnie paz (whoever he may be), secondly have you ever heard the song, "Got Urself A Gun"? "Ether"? or how about "Quick To Back Down"? oh yea "Rewind"! oh u said "God's Son" well i only had enough time to listen to a few tracks what about "Made You Look"? or "***** Killz"? shit man i could go on for a while, and u kno what thirdly you still dont kno what your talking about, so plz quit while you still have some credibility....

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

I would be willing to guess no one knows but a lot of people think they do. Without going into detailk I could agree with rap being the music and hiphop being the culture.
Urbandictionary.com seems to have a definition //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

lol. those are just defentitions put up by random pple surfing the net.