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<blockquote data-quote="kendogg" data-source="post: 6115813" data-attributes="member: 573942">Uhhh - stop judging me on what I&#039;ve used.&nbsp; FWIW, I&#039;ve NEVER used a pre-fab&#039;s box, and the only Best Buy subs I&#039;ve owned were RF HE2&#039;s, and a Pioneer 304C when they were the big forum boner years ago (worked at BB in &#039;01, so employee discount was stupid low).&nbsp; I&#039;ve used ALOT of drivers, and alot of nice drivers at that (I added them up the other night, over 50 from what I can remember at least).And you keep missing the fact that I&#039;ve never had this problem with other drivers, and that I am NOT THE ONLY PERSON who has experienced this with these drivers.&nbsp;&nbsp; I&#039;m not looking for much in a subwoofer.&nbsp; I want something that will punch me in the chest with some drummin bass, or when I throw in System of a Down, etc.&nbsp; You couldn&#039;t even hear the AV on Chop Suey.&nbsp; I&#039;ve had plenty of other setups that would do that.Lets see how many of the drivers I&#039;ve owned I can remember (in no particular order):JL 10W0 in multiple VC varieties (at least 9)JL 12W0-12 (3)Holywood Excursion 12&#039;s (2)Kicker Solobaric (round) 8&quot; (1)Kicker Solobaric (round) 10&quot; (1)Kicker XPL 12 (1)Kicker Comp VR 12 (2)Orion XTR Series 2 12&#039;s (3)Orion XTR Series 2 10&quot; (6)Orion XTR 10d (2)ED 12k (v1) (1)ED 10k (2003 e-cone) (2)ED 12k (forget which version) (1)RF HE 10&quot; (2)RF HE2 10&quot; (2)Pioneer 304c 12&quot; (1)Random Audiobahn 12&nbsp; (blew with a Punch 40i somehow)&nbsp;&nbsp; (1)RE RE8&#039;s (2)ED 11Ov2 (4)AE AV15 (1)DIYMA 12(1)I need to go thru some old pics and see if I can figure out what else I&#039;ve owned.&nbsp; Thats all I can think of off the top of my head right now.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kendogg, post: 6115813, member: 573942"] Uhhh - stop judging me on what I've used. FWIW, I've NEVER used a pre-fab's box, and the only Best Buy subs I've owned were RF HE2's, and a Pioneer 304C when they were the big forum boner years ago (worked at BB in '01, so employee discount was stupid low). I've used ALOT of drivers, and alot of nice drivers at that (I added them up the other night, over 50 from what I can remember at least). And you keep missing the fact that I've never had this problem with other drivers, and that I am NOT THE ONLY PERSON who has experienced this with these drivers. I'm not looking for much in a subwoofer. I want something that will punch me in the chest with some drummin bass, or when I throw in System of a Down, etc. You couldn't even hear the AV on Chop Suey. I've had plenty of other setups that would do that. Lets see how many of the drivers I've owned I can remember (in no particular order): JL 10W0 in multiple VC varieties (at least 9) JL 12W0-12 (3) Holywood Excursion 12's (2) Kicker Solobaric (round) 8" (1) Kicker Solobaric (round) 10" (1) Kicker XPL 12 (1) Kicker Comp VR 12 (2) Orion XTR Series 2 12's (3) Orion XTR Series 2 10" (6) Orion XTR 10d (2) ED 12k (v1) (1) ED 10k (2003 e-cone) (2) ED 12k (forget which version) (1) RF HE 10" (2) RF HE2 10" (2) Pioneer 304c 12" (1) Random Audiobahn 12 (blew with a Punch 40i somehow) (1) RE RE8's (2) ED 11Ov2 (4) AE AV15 (1) DIYMA 12(1) I need to go thru some old pics and see if I can figure out what else I've owned. Thats all I can think of off the top of my head right now. [/QUOTE]

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