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<blockquote data-quote="kendogg" data-source="post: 6115716" data-attributes="member: 573942">The bolded one was my main ***** with the driver itself.&nbsp; I am FAR from the only person who has experienced this, and I have yet to experience it with any other driver.&nbsp; Like I said, you should try running it in the recommended enclosure before passing judgement on how well it does up top.&nbsp; There are multiple people who have sat in my car (1 or 2 well known on CAF as well) that can attest to the fact that it completely fell on it&#039;s face up top.&nbsp; With some rock songs, you would not know there was a subwoofer in the car if somebody didn&#039;t tell you (not because it was so well balanced that it blended so well, because I couldn&#039;t f&#039;ing hear it).Once I started feeding it full power from my amp (Punch 25 to Life Punch 150, birthsheet claimed ~1020 rms, which I believe, especially when compared to the output with other amps I&#039;ve owned), I started hearing the ocassional tapping sound from the driver.&nbsp; At first, I thought it was bottoming out.&nbsp; John said it was my amp clipping, and I needed more power.&nbsp; So, I bought a bigger amp.&nbsp; Needed to have the sub re-coned into a D2 at the minimum.&nbsp; Hence my post here, asking if I should recone, or &#039;upgrade&#039; to the TD 18H+ (STILL, at this time, considering nothing but one of John&#039;s drivers).&nbsp; Then it all went downhill from there.Why do I feel like I&#039;m constantly having to repeat myself, ****.&nbsp; Nobody beleived me that I was having issues when I told them.&nbsp; I showed people, and they finally believed.&nbsp; Papermaker made fun of me and did not believe I was having issues.&nbsp; It specs out great on paper.&nbsp; He got the driver in his hands, used it for a day or 2, and goes &#039;**** - maybe kenny was right afterall&#039;.&nbsp; This is getting old.&nbsp; You people have fun with your POS drivers, I&#039;ve made my points, I&#039;ve presented facts, and I&#039;ve presented PLENTY of evidence of how flippy-floppy John is when it comes to standing behind his products, and the way he treats his customers when they have an issue.&nbsp; Make your own decisions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kendogg, post: 6115716, member: 573942"] The bolded one was my main ***** with the driver itself. I am FAR from the only person who has experienced this, and I have yet to experience it with any other driver. Like I said, you should try running it in the recommended enclosure before passing judgement on how well it does up top. There are multiple people who have sat in my car (1 or 2 well known on CAF as well) that can attest to the fact that it completely fell on it's face up top. With some rock songs, you would not know there was a subwoofer in the car if somebody didn't tell you (not because it was so well balanced that it blended so well, because I couldn't f'ing hear it). Once I started feeding it full power from my amp (Punch 25 to Life Punch 150, birthsheet claimed ~1020 rms, which I believe, especially when compared to the output with other amps I've owned), I started hearing the ocassional tapping sound from the driver. At first, I thought it was bottoming out. John said it was my amp clipping, and I needed more power. So, I bought a bigger amp. Needed to have the sub re-coned into a D2 at the minimum. Hence my post here, asking if I should recone, or 'upgrade' to the TD 18H+ (STILL, at this time, considering nothing but one of John's drivers). Then it all went downhill from there. Why do I feel like I'm constantly having to repeat myself, ****. Nobody beleived me that I was having issues when I told them. I showed people, and they finally believed. Papermaker made fun of me and did not believe I was having issues. It specs out great on paper. He got the driver in his hands, used it for a day or 2, and goes '**** - maybe kenny was right afterall'. This is getting old. You people have fun with your POS drivers, I've made my points, I've presented facts, and I've presented PLENTY of evidence of how flippy-floppy John is when it comes to standing behind his products, and the way he treats his customers when they have an issue. Make your own decisions. [/QUOTE]

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