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<blockquote data-quote="bumpin buick" data-source="post: 6081610" data-attributes="member: 578001">Not arguing with you because honestly I dont know a lot about the SQ part of it. Just curious how did we come to talking about 99Z, APXX, HW, and CS subs. I mean now we have a thread about a very SQ based sub, that I was simply testing for power handling and see some scores it could put up while doing that to subs that are being mentioned are obviously in a different price range and power class. I understand the point your trying to make with FS and spider strength but I think you could reach that same FS and not have to have a spider that literally does not bend with me jumping on it. Just to give you an idea of what I am talking about, <a href="http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc256/usask8er1/15%20Challenge/?action=view&amp;amp;current=MVI_4118.flv" target="_blank">http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc256/usask8er1/15%20Challenge/?action=view&amp;amp;current=MVI_4118.flv</a>Dont get me wrong the HW and similar subs are crazy for SPL as they have insane power handling but all efficiency seems lost now a days with most SPL subs. The numbers are impressive dont get me wrong but some people want a sub that can put out good numbers and not need to be running 5kw+. That is not the issue with me but for many customers that need something that will take the abuse they feel they need a big sub like these and I dont feel that is always the case.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bumpin buick, post: 6081610, member: 578001"] Not arguing with you because honestly I dont know a lot about the SQ part of it. Just curious how did we come to talking about 99Z, APXX, HW, and CS subs. I mean now we have a thread about a very SQ based sub, that I was simply testing for power handling and see some scores it could put up while doing that to subs that are being mentioned are obviously in a different price range and power class. I understand the point your trying to make with FS and spider strength but I think you could reach that same FS and not have to have a spider that literally does not bend with me jumping on it. Just to give you an idea of what I am talking about, [URL="http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc256/usask8er1/15%20Challenge/?action=view&current=MVI_4118.flv"]http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc256/usask8er1/15%20Challenge/?action=view&current=MVI_4118.flv[/URL] Dont get me wrong the HW and similar subs are crazy for SPL as they have insane power handling but all efficiency seems lost now a days with most SPL subs. The numbers are impressive dont get me wrong but some people want a sub that can put out good numbers and not need to be running 5kw+. That is not the issue with me but for many customers that need something that will take the abuse they feel they need a big sub like these and I dont feel that is always the case. [/QUOTE]

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