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<blockquote data-quote="NDMstang65" data-source="post: 6119419" data-attributes="member: 544576"><p>The point was there slick that it comes down to the vehicle, the person behind the controls, and the install not the woofer and the techno-jargon that wins championships. Yes Eldrige and Biggs both won many titles using nothing more than..L7's. None are a highly technical woofer...with tons of graphs and theory and this should sound the best because of x,y, and z...they seem to sound fine in the right hands. But of course having a one-track mind like yourself and Mr. Bose neither of you could not see that i'm using a real world comparison...which should be done instead of theory in a lab. (Unless you are riding around in a 500' long anechoic chamber, then all of this does indeed apply 100% and you WILL hear a difference no doubt because hey, the graphs show it) Not comparing a product is inherently better than another one. But a technology that sounds "Horrible" that has been pretty standard in the industry for the past ohh...30 years or so? Seems to sound great.</p><p></p><p>I've never had a problem with John, Still do not have a problem with John, and John did not answer my one question. Can you audibly hear it and tell a significant difference in the environment in which it is in?</p><p></p><p>When you are in the bottom of the 9th, bases loaded, full count..do you swing and strike out or smack it out of the park? Can you actually hear what is being found in a laboratory environment, in a car, in this scenario and context that it is in.</p><p></p><p>He never once put my foot in my mouth...I never once cut on his product. He cut on some of our subs a few weeks back in regards to how "Foolish" one would be to make an American product which did irk me a bit that one would support outsourcing jobs instead of rooting for the home team so I put it in the back of my mind...</p><p></p><p>I don't have a vendetta against anybody (except bose, he's cute and i like him a lot). I call it how it is. Theory is great, it is a wonderful tool. Until you have to use theory and flashy signs to get people to believe the theory and flashy signs as the bible. Then at that point you are no more then a vacuum cleaner salesman of the 1960's that take money and run when nothing goes according to the theory and flashy signs. (Not saying there was not abuse here, because there obviously was)</p><p></p><p>If you can't see that and you do not dare ask well that's great in a lab how does it work out in the environment in which it is in you are nothing more than a cat that sees the laser pointer and runs after it..blindly, right into the wall.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NDMstang65, post: 6119419, member: 544576"] The point was there slick that it comes down to the vehicle, the person behind the controls, and the install not the woofer and the techno-jargon that wins championships. Yes Eldrige and Biggs both won many titles using nothing more than..L7's. None are a highly technical woofer...with tons of graphs and theory and this should sound the best because of x,y, and z...they seem to sound fine in the right hands. But of course having a one-track mind like yourself and Mr. Bose neither of you could not see that i'm using a real world comparison...which should be done instead of theory in a lab. (Unless you are riding around in a 500' long anechoic chamber, then all of this does indeed apply 100% and you WILL hear a difference no doubt because hey, the graphs show it) Not comparing a product is inherently better than another one. But a technology that sounds "Horrible" that has been pretty standard in the industry for the past ohh...30 years or so? Seems to sound great. I've never had a problem with John, Still do not have a problem with John, and John did not answer my one question. Can you audibly hear it and tell a significant difference in the environment in which it is in? When you are in the bottom of the 9th, bases loaded, full count..do you swing and strike out or smack it out of the park? Can you actually hear what is being found in a laboratory environment, in a car, in this scenario and context that it is in. He never once put my foot in my mouth...I never once cut on his product. He cut on some of our subs a few weeks back in regards to how "Foolish" one would be to make an American product which did irk me a bit that one would support outsourcing jobs instead of rooting for the home team so I put it in the back of my mind... I don't have a vendetta against anybody (except bose, he's cute and i like him a lot). I call it how it is. Theory is great, it is a wonderful tool. Until you have to use theory and flashy signs to get people to believe the theory and flashy signs as the bible. Then at that point you are no more then a vacuum cleaner salesman of the 1960's that take money and run when nothing goes according to the theory and flashy signs. (Not saying there was not abuse here, because there obviously was) If you can't see that and you do not dare ask well that's great in a lab how does it work out in the environment in which it is in you are nothing more than a cat that sees the laser pointer and runs after it..blindly, right into the wall. [/QUOTE]
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