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<blockquote data-quote="ciaonzo" data-source="post: 6606450" data-attributes="member: 607015"><p>Some of these drivers are semi-pending as certain individuals have already expressed an interest in them as early as a few months ago. Those individuals will have dibs until they inform me otherwise, or until I feel enough time has passed without any contact or serious commitment from them. I just wanted to give the items exposure in case they have a change of plans.</p><p></p><p>I do not intend to field the usual questions concerning how much thermal or mechanical abuse this gear can sustain before failure, so please don't bother with questions like; "how much will it take daily?", or "what size enclosure and how much vent area should I use?". This is a FOR SALE thread, not a seminar. If you don't know how to use the gear or you're not willing to do the footwork to educate yourself, you probably shouldn't be buying it. My apologies for the condescending tone, I know a good number of you know what you're doing and don't need a lecture. This is aimed those who are too lazy to perform even the simplest of searches for acquiring the knowledge necessary to accomplish their goals and usually eat up a portion of my time without so much as a thank you, let alone a purchase. Anyhow, enough with the rant. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif</p><p></p><p>I'm not looking for trades but you never know, please <strong>PM</strong> any offers you may have.</p><p></p><p><strong>15" TC Sounds/Eclipse Ti</strong> - D4 -- <span style="color: SeaGreen"><strong>$375 plus shipping </strong></span> -- Silver Ti frame, titanium cone w/wide foam half roll surround. Aluminum coil, RW. 750 sustained, 1500 dynamic.</p><p></p><p><strong>Specs</strong></p><p></p><p>Fs 27Hz</p><p></p><p>Qts 0.39</p><p></p><p>DCR 3.0Ω + 3.0Ω</p><p></p><p>Vas 6.10 Cuft</p><p></p><p>Xmax 34mm</p><p></p><p><strong>15" TC Sounds 3HP</strong> - Q2 -- <span style="color: SeaGreen"><strong>$200 plus shipping</strong></span> -- Black 4 spoke frame, extremely stiff paper cone w/foam half roll surround. Aluminum coil, RW. 750 sustained, 1500 dynamic. Some normal marking on the surround and a tiny bit of excess glue near the dust cap.</p><p></p><p><strong>Specs</strong></p><p></p><p>Qts=.276</p><p></p><p>Qes=.290</p><p></p><p>Qms=.5.860</p><p></p><p>Fs=28.318</p><p></p><p>Res=1.58</p><p></p><p>Ls=3.352m</p><p></p><p>Lp=7.58m</p><p></p><p>Rp=10.81</p><p></p><p>Dia=330m</p><p></p><p>(%shift) 22.7</p><p></p><p>Vas=104.2 L</p><p></p><p>mms=311.2</p><p></p><p>cms=101.4uM/N</p><p></p><p>bl=17.37T*m</p><p></p><p>n0=785.5m</p><p></p><p>SplSens=90.95</p><p></p><p>Xmax 30mm</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong>SOLD!</strong></span><strong>12" TC Sounds NEO AXIS</strong> - D3 -- <span style="color: SeaGreen"><strong>$425 plus shipping</strong></span> -- Red Ti frame, titanium cone w/rubber high roll surround, 3HP neodymium motor. Aluminum coil, FW. 2500 sustained, 5000 dynamic.</p><p></p><p><strong>Specs</strong></p><p></p><p>Qts: 0.328</p><p></p><p>Qes: 0.343</p><p></p><p>Qms: 7.387</p><p></p><p>Fs: 25.57 Hz</p><p></p><p>Re: 4.8 (series)</p><p></p><p>Vas: 44.38 L</p><p></p><p>Mms: 310 g</p><p></p><p>Cms: 125 uM/N</p><p></p><p>BL: 26.63 TM</p><p></p><p>Sens: 85.39</p><p></p><p>Xmax 34mm</p><p></p><p><strong>12" TC Sounds TC2+/TC1000</strong> - D4 -- <span style="color: SeaGreen"><strong>$175 plus shipping</strong></span> -- Silver 12 spoke frame, silver aluminum cone w/ rubber half roll surround. Aluminum coil, RW. 400 sustained, 1200 dynamic.</p><p></p><p><strong>Specs</strong></p><p></p><p>Qts 0.377</p><p></p><p>Qes 0.433</p><p></p><p>Qms 2.95</p><p></p><p>Fs 19hz</p><p></p><p>Res 8.10Ω</p><p></p><p>Ls 3.96mH</p><p></p><p>Lp 5.74mH</p><p></p><p>Rp 5.45Ω</p><p></p><p>Dia 250mm</p><p></p><p>Vas 138l</p><p></p><p>mms 168g</p><p></p><p>cms 400m/N</p><p></p><p>bl 21T*m</p><p></p><p>Spl 86.1dB</p><p></p><p>Xmax 24mm</p><p></p><p><strong>10" TC Sounds TC2</strong> - D4 -- <span style="color: SeaGreen"><strong>$125 plus shipping</strong></span> -- Silver 12 spoke frame, silver aluminum cone w/ rubber half roll surround. Aluminum coil, RW. 400 sustained, 1000 dynamic.</p><p></p><p><strong>Specs</strong> - Hard to find any for the 10", this is a link to the 8" to give you an idea. (Archived, loads very slowly.)</p><p></p><p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20050309184959/www.tcsounds.com/TC2_8_2574.htm" target="_blank">http://web.archive.org/web/20050309184959/www.tcsounds.com/TC2_8_2574.htm</a> -- Performance is essentially the same as the TC2+/TC1000.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red"><strong>Pending</strong></span><strong>10" TC Sounds LMS 4000 top assembly</strong> - S3 -- <span style="color: SeaGreen"><strong>$100 plus shipping</strong></span> -- Red Ti frame, silver aluminum cone w/rubber half roll surround. Aluminum coil, RW. 800 sustained, 2400 dynamic.</p><p></p><p>This will work with a TC9 with 1" slugs or 3HP+ with the short top plate. Condition is flawless but I received it with a discontinuity on one of the leads. This was a simply a poor connection and not the result of over-excursion. I took an iron to the lead and restored continuity but I don't have any solder for working with aluminum coils so I wasn't able to add any. I've tested the functionality and it's 100% mechanically sound but I <strong>DO NOT</strong> suggest putting it into service until the lead is serviced with a bit of solder. Otherwise, you will be looking at another failure.</p><p></p><p>For the driver to spec out as an LMS 4000, you will need to mate it with a 3HP+ using the short top plate. I do not recommend using the tall top plate version as the excursion behavior is different, the specs will be different, and the coil is sitting at a different height relative to the frame than would be necessary for the tall top plate version. This equates to an offset between the center of the coil and the center of the magnetic flux. There is no female half of the QCA ring so you will need to use fasteners.</p><p></p><p><strong>Specs (LMS 4000)</strong> - I can also give specs for use with a TC9.</p><p></p><p>Qts 0.414</p><p></p><p>Qes 0.435</p><p></p><p>Qms 8.85</p><p></p><p>Fs 17.8Hz</p><p></p><p>Res 2.77Ω</p><p></p><p>Ls 1.05mH</p><p></p><p>Lp 3.56mH</p><p></p><p>Rp 2.39Ω</p><p></p><p>Dia 202mm</p><p></p><p>Vas 80l</p><p></p><p>mms 171g</p><p></p><p>cms 461um/N</p><p></p><p>bl 11.1T*m</p><p></p><p>Spl 81.1dB</p><p></p><p>Xmax 30mm</p><p></p><p><strong>8" TC Sounds/Sunfire motor/coil/basket</strong> - S4 -- <span style="color: SeaGreen"><strong>$100 plus shipping</strong></span> -- Black 4 spoke frame, large 2" motor with perfectly matching salvaged coil. Beast copper coil, VERY robust with a WW of 1.8" and 6 layers, maybe 8. Weighs more than some of my 3" copper coils. This is the driver from the Sunfire SuperJunior. Multiple resources cite the driver as having a thermal rating of 1500 and I gave it a kilowatt without any issues. The only reason the driver isn't still operational is because of a mistake I made while I had my hand near the knobs on my signal generator. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/verymad.gif.3f39c5c2fd57527b671fad3efdfac756.gif The soft parts were damaged but the coil was not harmed in any way. This would be a great platform for building a high power 8".</p><p></p><p><strong>5.5" Vifa MG13WM01 fiberglass midbass/midrange pair</strong> - 4ohm -- <span style="color: SeaGreen"><strong>$75 plus shipping</strong></span> -- Black 4 spoke cast frame, black woven fiberglass cone w/rubber surround. No longer in production, specs are very hard to find but I will try once more and post them if I find them. They have a detailed but mellow sound and should be very simple to crossover. No harsh break-ups resulting in a strident character. At least, not that my golden ears can detect. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif</p><p></p><p>Pics below. Thanks for looking, guys. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ciaonzo, post: 6606450, member: 607015"] Some of these drivers are semi-pending as certain individuals have already expressed an interest in them as early as a few months ago. Those individuals will have dibs until they inform me otherwise, or until I feel enough time has passed without any contact or serious commitment from them. I just wanted to give the items exposure in case they have a change of plans. I do not intend to field the usual questions concerning how much thermal or mechanical abuse this gear can sustain before failure, so please don't bother with questions like; "how much will it take daily?", or "what size enclosure and how much vent area should I use?". This is a FOR SALE thread, not a seminar. If you don't know how to use the gear or you're not willing to do the footwork to educate yourself, you probably shouldn't be buying it. My apologies for the condescending tone, I know a good number of you know what you're doing and don't need a lecture. This is aimed those who are too lazy to perform even the simplest of searches for acquiring the knowledge necessary to accomplish their goals and usually eat up a portion of my time without so much as a thank you, let alone a purchase. Anyhow, enough with the rant. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif[/IMG] I'm not looking for trades but you never know, please [B]PM[/B] any offers you may have. [B]15" TC Sounds/Eclipse Ti[/B] - D4 -- [COLOR=SeaGreen][B]$375 plus shipping [/B][/COLOR] -- Silver Ti frame, titanium cone w/wide foam half roll surround. Aluminum coil, RW. 750 sustained, 1500 dynamic. [B]Specs[/B] Fs 27Hz Qts 0.39 DCR 3.0Ω + 3.0Ω Vas 6.10 Cuft Xmax 34mm [B]15" TC Sounds 3HP[/B] - Q2 -- [COLOR=SeaGreen][B]$200 plus shipping[/B][/COLOR] -- Black 4 spoke frame, extremely stiff paper cone w/foam half roll surround. Aluminum coil, RW. 750 sustained, 1500 dynamic. Some normal marking on the surround and a tiny bit of excess glue near the dust cap. [B]Specs[/B] Qts=.276 Qes=.290 Qms=.5.860 Fs=28.318 Res=1.58 Ls=3.352m Lp=7.58m Rp=10.81 Dia=330m (%shift) 22.7 Vas=104.2 L mms=311.2 cms=101.4uM/N bl=17.37T*m n0=785.5m SplSens=90.95 Xmax 30mm [COLOR=Red][B]SOLD![/B][/COLOR][B]12" TC Sounds NEO AXIS[/B] - D3 -- [COLOR=SeaGreen][B]$425 plus shipping[/B][/COLOR] -- Red Ti frame, titanium cone w/rubber high roll surround, 3HP neodymium motor. Aluminum coil, FW. 2500 sustained, 5000 dynamic. [B]Specs[/B] Qts: 0.328 Qes: 0.343 Qms: 7.387 Fs: 25.57 Hz Re: 4.8 (series) Vas: 44.38 L Mms: 310 g Cms: 125 uM/N BL: 26.63 TM Sens: 85.39 Xmax 34mm [B]12" TC Sounds TC2+/TC1000[/B] - D4 -- [COLOR=SeaGreen][B]$175 plus shipping[/B][/COLOR] -- Silver 12 spoke frame, silver aluminum cone w/ rubber half roll surround. Aluminum coil, RW. 400 sustained, 1200 dynamic. [B]Specs[/B] Qts 0.377 Qes 0.433 Qms 2.95 Fs 19hz Res 8.10Ω Ls 3.96mH Lp 5.74mH Rp 5.45Ω Dia 250mm Vas 138l mms 168g cms 400m/N bl 21T*m Spl 86.1dB Xmax 24mm [B]10" TC Sounds TC2[/B] - D4 -- [COLOR=SeaGreen][B]$125 plus shipping[/B][/COLOR] -- Silver 12 spoke frame, silver aluminum cone w/ rubber half roll surround. Aluminum coil, RW. 400 sustained, 1000 dynamic. [B]Specs[/B] - Hard to find any for the 10", this is a link to the 8" to give you an idea. (Archived, loads very slowly.) [URL="http://web.archive.org/web/20050309184959/www.tcsounds.com/TC2_8_2574.htm"]http://web.archive.org/web/20050309184959/www.tcsounds.com/TC2_8_2574.htm[/URL] -- Performance is essentially the same as the TC2+/TC1000. [COLOR=Red][B]Pending[/B][/COLOR][B]10" TC Sounds LMS 4000 top assembly[/B] - S3 -- [COLOR=SeaGreen][B]$100 plus shipping[/B][/COLOR] -- Red Ti frame, silver aluminum cone w/rubber half roll surround. Aluminum coil, RW. 800 sustained, 2400 dynamic. This will work with a TC9 with 1" slugs or 3HP+ with the short top plate. Condition is flawless but I received it with a discontinuity on one of the leads. This was a simply a poor connection and not the result of over-excursion. I took an iron to the lead and restored continuity but I don't have any solder for working with aluminum coils so I wasn't able to add any. I've tested the functionality and it's 100% mechanically sound but I [B]DO NOT[/B] suggest putting it into service until the lead is serviced with a bit of solder. Otherwise, you will be looking at another failure. For the driver to spec out as an LMS 4000, you will need to mate it with a 3HP+ using the short top plate. I do not recommend using the tall top plate version as the excursion behavior is different, the specs will be different, and the coil is sitting at a different height relative to the frame than would be necessary for the tall top plate version. This equates to an offset between the center of the coil and the center of the magnetic flux. There is no female half of the QCA ring so you will need to use fasteners. [B]Specs (LMS 4000)[/B] - I can also give specs for use with a TC9. Qts 0.414 Qes 0.435 Qms 8.85 Fs 17.8Hz Res 2.77Ω Ls 1.05mH Lp 3.56mH Rp 2.39Ω Dia 202mm Vas 80l mms 171g cms 461um/N bl 11.1T*m Spl 81.1dB Xmax 30mm [B]8" TC Sounds/Sunfire motor/coil/basket[/B] - S4 -- [COLOR=SeaGreen][B]$100 plus shipping[/B][/COLOR] -- Black 4 spoke frame, large 2" motor with perfectly matching salvaged coil. Beast copper coil, VERY robust with a WW of 1.8" and 6 layers, maybe 8. Weighs more than some of my 3" copper coils. This is the driver from the Sunfire SuperJunior. Multiple resources cite the driver as having a thermal rating of 1500 and I gave it a kilowatt without any issues. The only reason the driver isn't still operational is because of a mistake I made while I had my hand near the knobs on my signal generator. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/verymad.gif.3f39c5c2fd57527b671fad3efdfac756.gif[/IMG] The soft parts were damaged but the coil was not harmed in any way. This would be a great platform for building a high power 8". [B]5.5" Vifa MG13WM01 fiberglass midbass/midrange pair[/B] - 4ohm -- [COLOR=SeaGreen][B]$75 plus shipping[/B][/COLOR] -- Black 4 spoke cast frame, black woven fiberglass cone w/rubber surround. No longer in production, specs are very hard to find but I will try once more and post them if I find them. They have a detailed but mellow sound and should be very simple to crossover. No harsh break-ups resulting in a strident character. At least, not that my golden ears can detect. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif[/IMG] Pics below. Thanks for looking, guys. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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