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<blockquote data-quote="keep_hope_alive" data-source="post: 7469777" data-attributes="member: 576029"><p>I use rear fill to help simulate the normal room reflections you get, that sort of "envelopment" that can help enhance a front stage. I like using a 4"-5.25" driver which is fairly flat in the range Audioholic mentions above. I prefer to have it sufficiently delayed to obtain an adequate Initial Time Delay Gap (ITDG).</p><p></p><p></p><p>agreed, but "at or around" is pretty darn general and the case in 90% of vehicles. you won't aim them at the floor. granted, i had mine off axis in the apillars which isn't "at or around" anyone. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> but i didn't like the specular reflections off the glass (front and side) to the opposite ear. the success of kick vs apillar has a lot to do with the crossover point between the two. get the crossover point above 4-5kHz and driver separation becomes less crucial, but the woofer location may not support that response if not on-axis. I have heard many kick tweeter systems that I have liked. I ran kick tweeters for many years. I've only moved to apillars in the past 4-5 years, and only for stage height.</p><p></p><p>OP - from your description it sounds like you want more midbass. the MLK 165 can provide plenty of midbass if properly enclosed. what is the airspace volume for your kick locations? is the airspace airtight relative to the cabin? you can add some 8's behind you for more midbass if you want, it can achieve your goal if the back airspace is airtight relative to the cabin. i wouldn't call it "rear fill" at that point. My local shop has some of those ZR800-CW BNIB for $140 each, they had 6 left. are you running these 8's in lieu of a sub?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="keep_hope_alive, post: 7469777, member: 576029"] I use rear fill to help simulate the normal room reflections you get, that sort of "envelopment" that can help enhance a front stage. I like using a 4"-5.25" driver which is fairly flat in the range Audioholic mentions above. I prefer to have it sufficiently delayed to obtain an adequate Initial Time Delay Gap (ITDG). agreed, but "at or around" is pretty darn general and the case in 90% of vehicles. you won't aim them at the floor. granted, i had mine off axis in the apillars which isn't "at or around" anyone. :P but i didn't like the specular reflections off the glass (front and side) to the opposite ear. the success of kick vs apillar has a lot to do with the crossover point between the two. get the crossover point above 4-5kHz and driver separation becomes less crucial, but the woofer location may not support that response if not on-axis. I have heard many kick tweeter systems that I have liked. I ran kick tweeters for many years. I've only moved to apillars in the past 4-5 years, and only for stage height. OP - from your description it sounds like you want more midbass. the MLK 165 can provide plenty of midbass if properly enclosed. what is the airspace volume for your kick locations? is the airspace airtight relative to the cabin? you can add some 8's behind you for more midbass if you want, it can achieve your goal if the back airspace is airtight relative to the cabin. i wouldn't call it "rear fill" at that point. My local shop has some of those ZR800-CW BNIB for $140 each, they had 6 left. are you running these 8's in lieu of a sub? [/QUOTE]
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