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<blockquote data-quote="hispls" data-source="post: 8582244" data-attributes="member: 614752">Cool, yeah I&#039;m busy, a couple guys showed up today about doing some work on the property here and I&#039;m trying to get prepared to head out of town for the weekend to check out a show and visit family.As far as warranty goes, there&#039;s a few strategies used by the industry:First (Sundown/Eminence) you rate everything based on testing at 50hz sine wave for 8 hours.&nbsp; Conservative retard-proof ratings so if someone breaks it you KNOW they have abused it.Next, snake oil.&nbsp; Mention &quot;clipping&quot; or &quot;break in&quot; and just deny the claim.&nbsp; Audioque used to be famous for the &quot;break in&quot; line being a cop out....&nbsp; They were notorious for triple joint failures early on, though it&#039;s hard to say how many of those actually happened on rated power since their ratings seemed pretty honest.&nbsp; Expect the excuse and deny strategy particularly from companies who use inflated ratings.Thirdly (what I suspect premium priced companies do) is just market &quot;sound quality&quot; to an audience who largely won&#039;t abuse things and price at a point where they just eat a few no questions asked if they come back.Lastly offering warranty only if product is installed by authorized dealer leaving the ball in the install shop&#039;s court.I&#039;d say JL is probably a combination; they should be hard to break at rated power in their suggested box, they mostly appeal to people who won&#039;t be grossly abusive, they deal largely through brick and mortar sales, AND at their price point they can afford to eat a few.That all said, I suppose the best company only gives you so many freebies before they start to balk when you claim you got another broken sub.&nbsp; Burnt coils are easy to spot as are the signs of over excursion (or of course glue failures or legit manufacturing defect), and manufacturers should know what sort of use/abuse you&#039;d need to be doing to do either.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hispls, post: 8582244, member: 614752"] Cool, yeah I'm busy, a couple guys showed up today about doing some work on the property here and I'm trying to get prepared to head out of town for the weekend to check out a show and visit family. As far as warranty goes, there's a few strategies used by the industry: First (Sundown/Eminence) you rate everything based on testing at 50hz sine wave for 8 hours. Conservative retard-proof ratings so if someone breaks it you KNOW they have abused it. Next, snake oil. Mention "clipping" or "break in" and just deny the claim. Audioque used to be famous for the "break in" line being a cop out.... They were notorious for triple joint failures early on, though it's hard to say how many of those actually happened on rated power since their ratings seemed pretty honest. Expect the excuse and deny strategy particularly from companies who use inflated ratings. Thirdly (what I suspect premium priced companies do) is just market "sound quality" to an audience who largely won't abuse things and price at a point where they just eat a few no questions asked if they come back. Lastly offering warranty only if product is installed by authorized dealer leaving the ball in the install shop's court. I'd say JL is probably a combination; they should be hard to break at rated power in their suggested box, they mostly appeal to people who won't be grossly abusive, they deal largely through brick and mortar sales, AND at their price point they can afford to eat a few. That all said, I suppose the best company only gives you so many freebies before they start to balk when you claim you got another broken sub. Burnt coils are easy to spot as are the signs of over excursion (or of course glue failures or legit manufacturing defect), and manufacturers should know what sort of use/abuse you'd need to be doing to do either. [/QUOTE]

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