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<blockquote data-quote="helotaxi" data-source="post: 2707822" data-attributes="member: 550915"><p>Distortion is expressed as a precentage compared to the total signal. 1% distortion at 1W is no more or less audible that 1% distortion at 1000W. Remember that not only is the distortin amplified, but the signal itself is amplified as well.I don't see it because it isn't true. Resistance to a change in current is expressed as inductance. The voicecoil of a sub has an inductance value, because of the dynamic nature of the voicecoil in the gap, this value does change a bit depending on frequency. But it does not change much based on power (other than to go up thanks to increased resistance from a heated coil menaing that it actually increases with an increase in power. This increases distortion, too BTW.)</p><p>I was with you up until here...But that made no sense whatsoever.</p><p> Again, What?!?No actually running less power and turning the volume down are exactly the same thing, with exactly the same results.Again totally off base. The "specific output voltage" will only be reached under the exact conditinos with which the input level control was set. Any other condition will result in more or less voltage.</p><p>If the amp is capable of producing its rated power with an inaudible level of distortion (the JL amps are so capable) then there will be no difference in audible output between the 500/1 producing 500watts and the 1000/1 producing the exact same amount of power.</p><p>Again, all total BS. If the amp produces the amount of output you want/need with the sub in question, it doesn't matter that the sub could handle 10,000 watts, it will sound just as good with only 250w, it just won't be as loud. If the amp is making audible noises at its rated power, then the amp is either over-rated or broken. </p><p>With a good amp you should not be able to tell the difference between one running its full rated power and one rated for 4x more power but only running at 25%. That is a fact. If the smaller amp is producing audible distortion at its full power, that is a problem. Fact: I was very pleased with my XXX12 (1600 RMS rating) running off a 400w amp. No distortion from the amp, sub sounded perfect. Going to a bigger amp would have only given me the potential to get louder, it would not have made it sound any better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="helotaxi, post: 2707822, member: 550915"] Distortion is expressed as a precentage compared to the total signal. 1% distortion at 1W is no more or less audible that 1% distortion at 1000W. Remember that not only is the distortin amplified, but the signal itself is amplified as well.I don't see it because it isn't true. Resistance to a change in current is expressed as inductance. The voicecoil of a sub has an inductance value, because of the dynamic nature of the voicecoil in the gap, this value does change a bit depending on frequency. But it does not change much based on power (other than to go up thanks to increased resistance from a heated coil menaing that it actually increases with an increase in power. This increases distortion, too BTW.) I was with you up until here...But that made no sense whatsoever. Again, What?!?No actually running less power and turning the volume down are exactly the same thing, with exactly the same results.Again totally off base. The "specific output voltage" will only be reached under the exact conditinos with which the input level control was set. Any other condition will result in more or less voltage. If the amp is capable of producing its rated power with an inaudible level of distortion (the JL amps are so capable) then there will be no difference in audible output between the 500/1 producing 500watts and the 1000/1 producing the exact same amount of power. Again, all total BS. If the amp produces the amount of output you want/need with the sub in question, it doesn't matter that the sub could handle 10,000 watts, it will sound just as good with only 250w, it just won't be as loud. If the amp is making audible noises at its rated power, then the amp is either over-rated or broken. With a good amp you should not be able to tell the difference between one running its full rated power and one rated for 4x more power but only running at 25%. That is a fact. If the smaller amp is producing audible distortion at its full power, that is a problem. Fact: I was very pleased with my XXX12 (1600 RMS rating) running off a 400w amp. No distortion from the amp, sub sounded perfect. Going to a bigger amp would have only given me the potential to get louder, it would not have made it sound any better. [/QUOTE]
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