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<blockquote data-quote="Immacomputer" data-source="post: 3427771" data-attributes="member: 570419">Comparing subs in the same series is NOT very scientific or methodical. See my post on page 19 again and read it 5 times. Try with everything you have to understand it.This is just like people who throw 10 different subs in the same enclosure and then claim one better than the other without taking the design of the subs into consideration. People seem to have the idea that all 12&quot; subs should sound good in a xx.xx cubic feet enclosure.Judging a speaker just by cone area and it&#039;s free air resonance is a terrible way to decide which can get lower in some random sealed enclosure. You&#039;re leaving WAY too much out of the equation.Even so, you should never think that all subs within a given series sound the same and that they&#039;re designed the same. The reference to the XXX was to show that the 12&quot; is a very versatile driver that could do well ported or sealed and get fairly low in either type enclosure while the 18&quot; is a completely different driver that should only be sealed to get decent sound out of it. Two very, very, different drivers that share the same series.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Immacomputer, post: 3427771, member: 570419"] Comparing subs in the same series is NOT very scientific or methodical. See my post on page 19 again and read it 5 times. Try with everything you have to understand it. This is just like people who throw 10 different subs in the same enclosure and then claim one better than the other without taking the design of the subs into consideration. People seem to have the idea that all 12" subs should sound good in a xx.xx cubic feet enclosure. Judging a speaker just by cone area and it's free air resonance is a terrible way to decide which can get lower in some random sealed enclosure. You're leaving WAY too much out of the equation. Even so, you should never think that all subs within a given series sound the same and that they're designed the same. The reference to the XXX was to show that the 12" is a very versatile driver that could do well ported or sealed and get fairly low in either type enclosure while the 18" is a completely different driver that should only be sealed to get decent sound out of it. Two very, very, different drivers that share the same series. [/QUOTE]

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