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<blockquote data-quote="trust fund baby" data-source="post: 8377631" data-attributes="member: 664116">You&#039;re both absolutely wrong. Here&#039;s a very well written post from a gentleman on hidplanet.&quot;Quote Originally Posted by Matt VHey guys, I&#039;m thinking of switching over to 5000k with my Mini H1&#039;s because the 4300k is more yellow than white in terms of color. Would 5000k give me some more color without sacrificing too much light output?It depends on what you meam by &quot;sacrificing too much light output?&quot;For one person 300-500 Lumens might be low loss, while for others too much. Generally speaking (based on Philips datasheets) and avg. 4100-4300K bulb (85122) can produce 3100-3400 Lumens, while a 4800K (85122CM) goes down to 2800 Lumens and 5800K (85122WX - Ultinon) goes down to 2400 Lumens. I can assure you that there is a noticeable difference in the output between these bulbs.If you plan to go at 5000K try an OEM solution (like 85122CM or Osram Cold Blue etc.). You WILL LOSE Lumens, but still you will keep the major quality characteristics of the OEM bulbs. If you chose ANY a/m bulb higher than 4300K you&#039;ll be having a blue tinted output (even with 5000K bulbs), plus all the minuses from the lower quality of the bulb (compared to any OEM one). This is based on my personal experience.IMO it&#039;s not worth sacrificing Lumens for Looks !... My 85122+s (after 30-40 hours of operation) have lost their original (extreme) yellowish tint (on the road) and have become (IMO) true (and very intense) white (with a bit of bluish tint - according to the road and the items they &quot;hit&quot; each time). Definatelly they&#039;re &quot;blue&quot; compared to standard halogen headlights.The choice is yours...Costas&quot;I&#039;d be happy to post the actual color/lumen/usable light output charts if you&#039;d like to actually educate yourselves.The kits he got are $36 on Amazon. Yes, they are cheap China bulbs (and ballasts)I couldn&#039;t care any less about any money or cars he may or may not have. Actually, I vastly prefer my sl over his IS (although it&#039;s a nice car too). But yes, if you take off good, quality oem parts that are properly designed and integrated to replace them with inferior, poorly built replacements for only an imagined &quot;visual upgrade&quot;, I&#039;ll call you a ricer idiot as well.OMG LETS COMPROMISE OUR SAFETY AND THE LEGALITY OF OUR VEHICLE BECAUSE WE THINK IT LOOKS GOOD. ALWAYYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSHe&#039;s a very talented fabricator, and deserves much (if not all) of the kudos he receives for the builds he does. Thats not the issue at hand, is it?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="trust fund baby, post: 8377631, member: 664116"] You're both absolutely wrong. Here's a very well written post from a gentleman on hidplanet. " Quote Originally Posted by Matt V Hey guys, I'm thinking of switching over to 5000k with my Mini H1's because the 4300k is more yellow than white in terms of color. Would 5000k give me some more color without sacrificing too much light output? It depends on what you meam by "sacrificing too much light output?" For one person 300-500 Lumens might be low loss, while for others too much. Generally speaking (based on Philips datasheets) and avg. 4100-4300K bulb (85122) can produce 3100-3400 Lumens, while a 4800K (85122CM) goes down to 2800 Lumens and 5800K (85122WX - Ultinon) goes down to 2400 Lumens. I can assure you that there is a noticeable difference in the output between these bulbs. If you plan to go at 5000K try an OEM solution (like 85122CM or Osram Cold Blue etc.). You WILL LOSE Lumens, but still you will keep the major quality characteristics of the OEM bulbs. If you chose ANY a/m bulb higher than 4300K you'll be having a blue tinted output (even with 5000K bulbs), plus all the minuses from the lower quality of the bulb (compared to any OEM one). This is based on my personal experience. IMO it's not worth sacrificing Lumens for Looks !... My 85122+s (after 30-40 hours of operation) have lost their original (extreme) yellowish tint (on the road) and have become (IMO) true (and very intense) white (with a bit of bluish tint - according to the road and the items they "hit" each time). Definatelly they're "blue" compared to standard halogen headlights. The choice is yours... Costas" I'd be happy to post the actual color/lumen/usable light output charts if you'd like to actually educate yourselves. The kits he got are $36 on Amazon. Yes, they are cheap China bulbs (and ballasts) I couldn't care any less about any money or cars he may or may not have. Actually, I vastly prefer my sl over his IS (although it's a nice car too). But yes, if you take off good, quality oem parts that are properly designed and integrated to replace them with inferior, poorly built replacements for only an imagined "visual upgrade", I'll call you a ricer idiot as well. OMG LETS COMPROMISE OUR SAFETY AND THE LEGALITY OF OUR VEHICLE BECAUSE WE THINK IT LOOKS GOOD. ALWAYYYYYYYYYYSSSSSS He's a very talented fabricator, and deserves much (if not all) of the kudos he receives for the builds he does. Thats not the issue at hand, is it? [/QUOTE]

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